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What one is afraid of says as much about the person as about the situation. I go to Arnellia's. I take my wife. We are not afraid of going there. I have never felt like a target. Someone was shot 3 blocks from my house. I still walk that corner. It would be stupid of me to be afraid of ever place where something bad happens. I would certainly not enter the capitol or city hall. Arnellia's has great music and should be visited. Bruce Leier Aurora/St Anthony -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renee Jenson Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [StPaul] Arnellia's and the St. Paul Police Index of SPPS Budget Discussion http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/spps-posts.html _________________________________________ To tell you the truth, Willie, I can't get a white guy to take me down there. They feel like a moving target in that area at night. That's not the way it should be. And you're right. I haven't been shot. Not yet. And I don't want to be. I wasn't in Arnellia's the night the guy came in with his gun cocked and firing into the crowd. But I could have been. I was planning on going Sunday night for the benefit when the Westside Band was playing. Had a special invite. But I didn't think it was a good time to go. Too volatile. Shooter still on the loose. How many shootings have been at Arnellia's in recent years? How many fights? How many police calls? And hey, I love getting down and sweaty on Arnellia's dance floor better than anyone. But I want to feel safe coming and going, you know what I mean? Renee Jenson Como ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Renee Jenson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [StPaul] Arnellia's and the St. Paul Police That's very interesting and I understand how you could feel, to a point. But to my recollection, white women have not been victims there. As a matter of fact the last victim was a Black male. Arsenio Hall used to say HMMMMM! wan The Midway Lurker "Renee Jenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/03/04 11:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: [StPaul] Arnellia's and the St. Paul Police Index of SPPS Budget Discussion http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/spps-posts.html _________________________________________ I've been busy so I haven't had time to respond to comments on this thread. Willie Nesbit said: >Please don't over-dramatize our supposedly war-torn area. I >work within walking distance of Arnellia's and I feel very safe and >have been working here on University ave. for over 6yrs. Well, Willie, you're not a white woman. The only way I will go down to Arnellia's at night is if I have a large black man to escort me. And even then, sometimes it gets tense. I'm wondering how many people have to be shot at Arnellia's before some serious measures are taken. Yes, it needs a better police presence. Yes, it needs better lighting. Yes, there has to be more cooperation with the city to clean up the area. Yes, there has to be a reevaluation of programming and events. And Yes, they have to do a better job of cleaning up the drug traffic. Sheesh. Everytime I go to White Castle I could arrest a half dozen for dealing. But the city, the police and Arnellia's owners can't keep ignoring the problem and keep hoping it goes away. They need to get serious. Ren�e Jenson Como _____________________________________________ SPPS Budget Reduction Forum - Feb. 23-27 Co-Sponsored By NEAT: http://www.stpaulneat.org/ _____________________________________________ NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ _____________________________________________ SPPS Budget Reduction Forum - Feb. 23-27 Co-Sponsored By NEAT: http://www.stpaulneat.org/ _____________________________________________ NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ _____________________________________________ SPPS Budget Reduction Forum - Feb. 23-27 Co-Sponsored By NEAT: http://www.stpaulneat.org/ _____________________________________________ NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/
