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Dan,

I agree with you. I worked hard for Thune during his campaign for 12
months. During that time the CofC was on his tail the entire time. Dave
and the other members of the council know how big of an issue this
stadium thing is and what it will mean for politics for at least another
2 years. Kelly isn't going to forget about the 'trashing' of his pet
project anytime soon. It will be interesting to see if Kelly still has
the balls to attempt something seen as retaliation these days. It was
easy when there was just Kathy and Jay. They were easy targets, but now
that there are 4 people on the council that unite on issues like this
one...well the Mayor has to change his tactics.

The thing that I find is the great part about this council is that they
actually seem to be listening to constituents (unlike our Mayor). It is
a refreshing change from the last 4 years of being outright ignored by
Coleman.

I personally admire Dave for authoring the resolution and standing up
for what he knows is the right thing to do. Bravo Dave! 

Paul Skrbec
West 7th resident and business owner

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Dobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: John Harris
Subject: [StPaul] Why the Council's Vote was courageous

John asks "Why is the "no" vote by the councilmembers
courageous?  Sounds like they are doing their jobs or
the support by the public to deny public funds was
suspect." 

That's an easy statement to make, until you figure in
that Mayor Kelly is one nasty S.O.B. He closed a fire
station in Jay Benanav's ward and is not above doing
other mean-spirited things to Council members who
oppose him.

The Chamber of Commerce threw $50,000 against Dave
Thune last year in a desperate attempt to beat him and
can be expected to throw similar amounts against these
candidates in the future. 

Next there is Trade and Labor who endorsed all four of
these candidates, and now will feel betrayed. They
wanted the hundreds of millions of dollars in
construction contracts a new stadium would bring.

Lastly, not everyone is opposed to using tax dollars
on new stadiums. There is a substantial minority who
see nothing wrong in using our tax dollars this way.
I was up at the Capital this afternoon and met two of
the Council members who voted for the Resolution
against Mayor Kelly's tax and they both said they are
already getting hate mail.

John may not think it was courageous, but when a
politician bites the hand of some of their biggest
supporters believe me that takes guts.

Dan Dobson
Summit Hill - Saint Paul
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 10:44:35 -0800 (PST)
From: John Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [StPaul] St. Paul City Council passes
resolution against
        Kelly's 3% stadium tax 
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> those of you who are opposed to spending our tax
> dollars in these way, show your support for them by
> sending a letter to the editor or call in KFAN,
> Sourecery or Jason Lewis, when they start to blast
> these good Council members. 


Before you all light up the phone lines, Jason Lewis
is working in Charlotte, NC.  Soucheray isn't really
for a publically funded stadium in St. Paul.  I
believe he is on the record for infrastructure only
and no roof.  I guarantee the comman man is 150%
against new stadium construction with as little as 1
penny of public money.  The rest of the fan is more
for a vikings stadium as they know where their bread
is buttered.

Another question is if the issue of no public funding
had overwhelming support by the people of St. Paul,
why is the "no" vote by the councilmembers courageous?
 Sounds like they are doing their jobs or the support
by the public to deny public funds was suspect.

John Harris
webber-camden




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