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Does anyone else find it troubling the "I hate
conservatives" speak coming from people who bend over
backwards to make sure all groups are taken care of? 
The blind, gays, minorities, the poor, the unions?  go
figure.

On the vote.  If the members were listening to the
overwhelming majority I keep hearing that don't want a
dime of public money spent on a "millionaires
playgroud" then voting against the mayor shouldn't
matter?  So the chamber or the mayor lines up a
candidate against a member.  Why would it matter if
the incumbent was pleasing the poeple who are voting? 
I appreciate the ideas of why it was courageous but I
am not buying it.  More and more I think that the
overwhelming majority isn't as large as it is reported
and those who have set up their lobbying groups
(another irony) are now telling us, or at least me,
that something that was a no-brainer is now
courageous.  I didn't think the council worked for the
mayor anyway.

Look, I don't disagree with what the council did.  I
just don't see it being courageous or something of
significance.  It sounds to me that the council did
their job representing the people of their wards.

I-35E.  Mary brought up some good points.  I am an
amateur gardener and shrubs and small trees are
sensitive to chemicals.  They are also sensitive to
the type of soil they are planted in, how much food
they get, how much water they get.  Are the areas
where the greenery is planted irregated?  Is there a
lot of bird life around to provide some natural
fertilizer.  Is the soil they planted them in able to
sustain the types of plants the put there, does it
drain well or stay swampy?  I don't doubt that any
elevated levels of CO can play a part in the demise of
these plants.  Also, the oils, chemicals and what not
that gets plowed over the area during the winter can't
be good for them.  I just don't think one thing caused
the inability to grow small trees there, certainly not
just exhaust.

Slower drivers are not always more careful than faster
drivers.  slower drivers can and do cause accidents. 
Sure you have more reaction time but when you are
doing 45 in a 55 and decide to move yourself to the
left lane not giving the driver already over there
doing 55 not enough time to slow down or evade, whose
fault is that?  Happens all the time especially with
people afraid to merge into traffic when traffic is
going the posted.  


John Harris
webber-camden

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