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Tom sounds like the executives of the tobacco industry claiming
studies do not show a health hazzard. I don't know if any study
exists related to second hand smoke. However, I have been seated in
restaurants next to smokers. I can tell you that there is a lot of
smoke that comes off that cigarette that doesn't have the benefit of
the filtering from the smoker's lungs. The only difference is that
there is less concentration of smoke the non-smoker inhales. It
seems to be a very small leap to reach a conclusion that second hand
smoke is a health hazzard.
The question I would like smokers on this list to answer is: How
come smokers will hold their cigarette away from their person when
not the burning leaves are not actually in their mouth? Can it be
because they don't like the second hand smoke either?
Mike Fratto
Payne Phalen
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--- Andy Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In fact, you are absolutely correct, Andrew; you're
> making nothing up. In
> addition to all of the other damaging substances in
> smoke, carbon monoxide,
> the same odorless, colorless, deadly gas that kills
> people breathing car
> exhaust fumes, pours off the burning end of a lit
> cigarette or cigar and is
> inhaled by everyone around them not just the
> smoker.
This is an assinine tact.
It's a matter of perspective, which is sorely lacking
here. Too much nitrogen, which we need is poisionous,
so is too much carbon dioxide without which every
plant on the planet would die.
There is no, zero, none, study that links "second hand
smoke" with any debilitating health risk is there
Driscoll?
>It intrudes on no one's right to smoke, only on
>their ability to create a poisonous atmosphere
> for workers who can't escape it and others in the
> rooms - the bars and
> restaurants, including so-called "non-smoking" areas
> where you still can't
> escape it.
You're right Driscoll. It intrudes on the freedom of
business owners to set their own rules of conduct
within the businesses that they paid for, took the
risk of opening and pay the taxes for that enable the
stinkin' government to crush their (and our) freedoms.
And of course since you believe that any shmo has the
right to any job at any time the fact that non-smoking
employees now enjoy the right to come and go as they
please never enters your mind.
This is not Thune's doing any more than his gay
marriage proclamation, he's not principled enough for
any of that; as his former supporters have learned
Dave does what is good for Dave. He's merely shoring
up his damaged liberal paint job.
> Senkler wants us all to believe a smoking ban will
> drive him and other
> places out of business. First of all, this is simply
> not true. The evidence
> from all points east and west where smoking bans
> have been enacted report a
> general increase - often a doubling - in patronage
> and profits for those
> places. New York City (Manhattan), California,
> Florida and many local town
> and cities - all have hailed the change.
Oh yea? That's not the report comming from Duluth pal.
The "benifits" came when the states that you've cited
made the ban statewide. Before that, smokers merely
went where they could smoke: and that hurt and killed
long established businesses.
At least have the common decency to admit that you are
fighting for your cause no matter the consequences to
any one else, then at the least you'll be awarded the
rights of honesty.
TJSwift
Cherokee Park
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