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I guess if you already own the Mayor, and the council, they must be considered family so you can give them what ever you want when you want, then were way beyond the point of lobbists, were into shadow government with no accountability to the voters.


So does this mean now that the Mayor has his civil rights to due process restored. That he will be magnanamous and restore the civil rights to due process to the pesents of west 7 th. st. ?, or will the shadow government refuse to let the mayor follow the law?

Arno A. Karner
West 7 th. st. < 300 ft. NNW of GSE
http://tnss.com/noise_stink/
aka Behind the Muffs

Dan Dobson wrote:

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I saw the article in the PP that Dave Schultz's second complaint against the mayor and two City Council members for accepting Wild tickets had been dismissed and quite frankly I am baffled. I researched this VERY ISSUE, before Mr. Schultz and I filed our previous complaint against the Mayor, for his flight to Denver on a private jet last year and there was clear evidence that the Minnesota Wild have lobbyists.

Pulling out my research I found that the Wild, or
entities there of, clearly are registered as lobbyists
at the State. First there is;

Minnesota Hockey Inc. Identification Number: 5517
317 Washington St
St Paul, MN 55102


Lobbyists Registered Registration
Joel Carlson 8692 2/14/03


Then there is:
Minn Hockey Ventures Group Identification Number: 4661
317 Washington St
St Paul, MN 55102-1609


Lobbyists Registered Registration
Timothy T Welch 8947 2/26/98 3/19/04


317 Washington Street, is the address of the Minnesota
Wild. Two lobbyists for Hockey are registered there.
It appears to me that the Wild have not one, but two
lobbying arms.


I think the State Campaign Finance and Disclosure
Board really blew this one. Why is Dave Schultz's and
my first Complaint now at the Court of Appeals, when
this one was dismissed.

I fail to see the distinction.

Daniel D. Dobson
Summit Hill - Saint Paul
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 10:22:46 -0500
From: John Birrenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [StPaul] Not a "Lobbiest" Mayor & Council get
off
To: St Paul Discuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Well the mayor and a couple members of the Council got
off over the NHL All star game and the nice tickets
they got access to gratis the Wild Owners.  Why cause
the Wild and it's owners are not "Lobbiest" under the
definition of the law.

Well that just about opens the door pretty wide
doesn't it?

Well, I am not a lobbiest either according to the
definitions of the State Law so I guess if I can
afford it I can buy a council member or even the
Mayor... a few perks here few perks there.... No
Problem..

Any member of the Council or Mayor who is looking for
FREE COFFEE anytime they need it... so long as we get
to keep doing what ever it is we want (ie GSE types of
illegal activity) and never have to fear the City or
its inspectors.... Just sign here and COFFEE IS FREE, (well if you want to pay for it out of campaign funds
that is fine too).


How the State Campaign Finance Board couldn't figure
out the the owners of the WILD who are lobbying all
the time but are not a "Lobbiest" is beyond me.





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