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Sorry, Paul, but I'm with Dave on this one.

I can remember riding the buses in D.C. as a kid and having to put up with
folks smoking and having it stink up my clothes. At 9 in the morning. I
never did like it then, and I don't see how it's any different when it comes
to smoking in restaurants or other "public" places. I know many Americans,
Europeans, and Asians view the world as just a big toilet to pollute however
we see fit--smoking everywhere, cigarette butts everywhere, trash in the
canals and streams--what have you. It's certainly one way to live. But not a
good one, I don't think. If people have to smoke, well, okay, I see no point
in banning it. Never would work. But controlling where it happens is
perfectly permissible--and should be the priority of every city. Because I
think people should be able to choose how long they get to live, all things
being equal, and those smokers that don't care about longevity aren't
entitled to take a few years off other people's lives just so they can enjoy
their habit in public. And yes, Andrew, I think motorcyclists should be
required to wear helmets. I guess I'm just a silly stickler when it comes to
common sense issues and all.

Tom Goldstein
Mac-Groveland


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From: "Paul Kuettel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 8:46 PM
Subject: [StPaul] Granstander Thune Strikes Again


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> Hi All!
>
> I really like Dave as a person, but he is off the deep end on this.  My
first
> thought, even before Mr. Hare brought it up, is that Thune wants to quit
and is
> using his power to ruin the fun for everyone in the his own personal
interest.
>
> I wonder if Dave has polled his buddies like Nick Mancini and all the
other 7th
> Street hangouts.  What about Payne Avenue? Downtown hotel bars that need
> convention business?  I'm just scratching the surface.
>
> Politicos with no business sense should stay the heck out of areas they
don't
> understand.  My mom quit 30 years ago, my dad 15.  They go to bars up at
their
> lake place all the time.  My wife quit before we married but has recently,
> sadly, taken it back up.  I never smoked (one vice I have managed to avoid
;-)
>
> I like to have a beer and play trivia at Ferns from time to time and I
selfishly
> wouldn't mind coming home without stinky hair and clothes.  But my regular
bar
> is Ol' Mexico, safely into Roseville.  Close, convenient, friendly and
> relatively cheap.  All my bar buddies smoke, so I'll pay the price
second-hand
> to enjoy their company and our fierce but friendly trivia contests.
>
> I'm sure the outrage will be heard by the time the Council hears this
ordinance,
> but I'll bet they'll put it off and vote to pay for a study.  The camel's
nose
> is under the tent.
>
> Shame on you, Dave Thune.
>
> Cheers!
>
> PK
>
>
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