At the risk of being excoriated again by the well known mental defective 
who haunts this list, I would like to make a point about multi-family 
dwellings.  This is 
a separate issue from the restaurant and public area ban on smoking.  I can 
remember how much I disliked the smokers down the hall from me when I was in a 
college dorm some decades ago.  However, I have lived in several multi-family 
dwellings since then and although I have occasionally noticed the smell of 
smoke, I have not been excessively bothered by it.

    Still, if it is strong enough to bother someone, it bothers someone.  
Going back to the idea that someone else's right to swing their fist ends at the 
tip of my nose, this is an issue that deserves some attention.  However, I am 
less sure of how I would word such a ban on smoking in multi-family dwellings. 
 Perhaps something like the laws about excessive noise, meaning that you 
would have to make a complaint to the police and then get them to actually catch 
the offender.  Sounds difficult, but not impossible to work out.

    If no one is bothered enough to make a complaint, then there is no crime. 
 I think something along those lines might be reasonable.

    By the way, I am including my address and phone number, in case he feels 
like coming over and saying something to me in person.  I have had a brief 
Internet exchange with this "keyboard commando" and he has declined to visit with 
me, but I wanted to make the invitation public, in the same way that he did 
in an effort to embarrass Guy Western.

    BTW, I plan to be at the District 5 meeting located at Arlington Hills 
Lutheran Church Fellowship Hall, which is located at 1115 Greenbrier.  The 
Arlington Hills Lutheran Church is located on the northwest corner of Jessamine and 
Greenbrier.  Greenbrier is one block east of Payne and runs parallel to 
Payne.  The meeting is at 6:30 p.m. tonight.  I plan to be asking some questions 
about Level III sex offenders, so I should not be hard to find.

    Brett Sprangel
    1116 Geranium Ave. East
    Saint Paul, MN
    651-793-6445
    East Side

In a message dated 6/14/4 21:38:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< In multi-home dwellings like you'll find downtown, there's no way to 
escape from a smoker that might be two or three floors away. >>
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