In the case sited below, a private person rented space for a private function. However, I would argue this rental agreement does not extend to the pathways and sidewalks around the rented space. Nor does it extend to the tables etc beyond the pavilion that is reserved. In the issue of the Farmer's Market, the entire issue is that the offense was done on the sidewalk. While I don't know the specifics of the lease agreement, I assume the entire reason for this agreement is to ensure that someone takes care of vendors needs. I don't believe this agreement was initiated by Gerten on anyone else on their own behalf, but in response to a St. Paul Request for Proposal. If this is true than the operators of the farmers' market are doing so as if they were, in fact, employees of the city. Mike Fratto Payne Phalen
>>> "Tom & Elsa Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07/06/2004 12:11:47 PM >>> "We then said "Great! This is public land, paid for with public tax dollars,........."And then after we're arrested and beat the rap, we'll sue you and Mayor Coleman under 42 USC 1983 which is the Federal Civil Rights law."" "Until I am shown that the Farmers Market is private land, I would tell any candidate or any group with any issue that they have a right to wander the Farmers' Market freely and at will. It is disturbing that City officials appear to be limiting the exercise of Free Speech under the First Amendment there." Ok, I have a question or two on this; If I or someone else rents public property (Como Park Pavillion, Conservatory, etc) for a wedding, family reunion, company picnic, or any other private event, I or anyone else can walk into that area with full first amendment rights and talk politics or hand out candidate information? Since this is public land, it really can't be rented and used for private functions? Is this the society that we have come to? In order to show our political opponents that we can, so we will? My opinion is that we should respects someone's rights to political free speech. At the same time we should respect those who are trying to do commerce or have a wedding, on public property, to be able to do so with some rights of privacy. Just because it is a commerce oriented function as opposed to a wedding makes the lease or rental payment no less important to the person having the function. Tom Thompson Como Park _____________________________________________ To Join: St. Paul Issues Forum Rules Discussion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _____________________________________________ NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ _____________________________________________ To Join: St. Paul Issues Forum Rules Discussion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _____________________________________________ NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/
