I think the main discussion at this point is about an east-west streetcar line running around downtown and possibly along Selby or Grand. I'm quite certain a line out along West 7th is not the focus of the effort.
There's already a coordinated effort to bring a similar streetcar from Uptown along the Midtown Greenway in Minneapolis (just north of Lake), and one thought is this could connect with that line, possibly via the 26th Street railroad bridge over the Mississippi. This effort is being promoted by different people than the West 7th busway, under different circumstances. This is being described from the outset as a "Civic Dialogue". I think there's a real attempt to get a neighborhood-level discussion going before going forward. In Minneapolis, for example, it is a non-profit called the Midtown Greenway Coalition advancing the streetcar concept, which is made up basically of representatives from all the surrounding neighborhood organizations. But that about exhausts my knowledge on the project - anyone who has important questions can to go to one of the forums. Bob Spaulding Downtown Saint Paul Resident ------------------------------------------------------- Bring the streetcars back! Saint Paul Launches a Civic Dialogue Wednesday Nov. 17, 2004 & Thursday, Nov. 18, 2004 Former Portland City Commissioner Charlie Hales will be speaking at four different events in Saint Paul on Nov. 17-18, 2004. Hales is a transit planning principal at HDR Engineering, working with communities on transit options. As a member of the Portland City Council from 1992 through 2002, Hales was the driving force behind the effort to raise $58 million in bonds to create the Portland Streetcar, the nation's first modern streetcar. With the success of the new Hiawatha LRT line, Saint Paul welcomes the opportunity to explore streetcars as a way to link downtown arts, entertainment and business with our city's vibrant neighborhoods for residents and visitors alike. On Wednesday, Nov. 17, 3:30 p.m. --------------------------------- Charlie will address the Saint Paul City Council at its regular meeting, which will be televised on St. Paul Cable Channel 18. Wednesday, Nov. 17, 2004, 7 to 8:30 p.m. ---------------------------------------- Public Event: "Bringing Back the Streetcars" Minnesota History Center, 3M Auditorium, St. Paul HDR Transit Planning Principal Charlie Hales is helping to revive the electric streetcar as a popular, efficient, and cost-effective transit option in cities across the U.S. Charlie shares his experiences in this presentation, as both Twin Cities consider reviving the streetcar on lines like the Midtown Greenway and Grand Avenue. From 6 to 7 p.m., visit the exhibit Going Places: The Mystique of Mobility to enjoy archival streetcar film footage and read riders' stories. Wednesday, Nov. 17, 11:30-1:00 p.m. ------------------------------------ Brown Bag Lunchtime Talk for Activists and Engineers: "The Nuts and Bolts of Streetcars" Saint Paul City Hall, Room 40, 15 West Kellogg Blvd., St. Paul Transit enthusiasts, transportation planners, neighborhood activists, public works engineers and interested members of the public are invited to join Charlie to talk about how to start planning for St. Paul streetcar. Bring your own lunch and RSVP to reserve a chair by calling Jane Prince at 651/266-8641. Pop machines available. Thursday, Nov. 18, 8-9 a.m. --------------------------- "Streetcars, LRT and Buses: Regional Transit Leaders and Charlie Hales" Macalester Campus Center, John B. Davis Lecture Hall, Grand & Snelling, St. Paul Charlie will discuss how streetcars can enhance our region's multi-modal transit system by linking downtown and neighborhood residents, workers and visitors. A responder panel of regional transit and business leaders will respond. Coffee and Rolls. Presented with support from the City of Saint Paul, the Minnesota History Center, Macalester College, University UNITED, the CapitolRiver Council, Merriam Park Community Council, Midway Transportation Management Organization, Capital City Partnership, HDR Engineering, Inc., Dayton's Bluff District 4 Community Council, Macalester Groveland Community Council. If you have questions about any of these events, call the Saint Paul City Council at 651/266-8641. Russ Stark Executive Director Midway Transportation Management Organization (TMO) 1954 University Avenue, Suite 9 St. Paul, MN 55104 651-644-5108 _____________________________________________ To Join: St. Paul Issues Forum Rules Discussion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _____________________________________________ St. Paul Topics - This Week: Light Rail http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul-topics _____________________________________________ NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/