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With all due respect to David, our erstwhile List Manager, I must dissent when he writes, "Number one: If it's politically expedient for candidates to say that they'll bow out if someone else receives a coveted DFL endorsement, they'll say it. They'll just make sure no candidate gets the endorsement, so they can run after the convention and technically not break any promise." Having been through two conventions, here in Saint Paul in the last 8 weeks and I can say that certainly is not true over here. In the 4th District Ramsey County Board race, (created when Sue Haugh left the Board to run Habitat for Humanity), a number of DFL'ers pledged they would drop out if they did not get the endorsement, including Ken Iosso (aide to Raphael Oretga), Jim Mogen (St. Paul DFL Chair) and Toni Carter (St. Paul School Board member who got the endorsement). Two others sought the endorsement, Anne Harris and Joe Semarga, but did not promise to abide by it. Before the convention, the "smart money" was on Iosso or Mogan, but Carter surprized a lot of us and walked away with it. Iosso and Mogan did not try and block the endorsement process, graciously bowed out and did not run against Carter in the special primary election. Similarly, this past Saturday, both Chris Coleman and Raphael Oretga promised to abide by the endorsement for Mayor in Saint Paul. Now Coleman in the past has not honored the endorsement and ran against Betty McCollum for Congress after he lost the endorsement in 1998(?), endorsed Randy Kelly for Mayor 4 years ago over Jay Benanav, the DFL endorsed candidate, and in 2003 endorsed Christine Nelson, the Chamber of Commerce endorsed candidate over Dave Thune, the DFL endorsed candidate, for his former seat. So there was a question in my mind what Coleman would do this time, if he did not get the endorsement. However, that question became moot, when Coleman bested Oretga and Oretga dropped out prior to the 3rd ballot. So I can't speak for Minneapolis, but I have not seen many candidates over here promising to honor the endorsement and then trying to block it, if they couldn't get it. The last one was Norm Coleman in 1993, when he ran for Mayor. When it became clear he wouldn't get the endorsement, his campaign told his people to vote for Andy Dawkins, denying Bob Long the endorsement, because Coleman thought that it would be easier to beat Dawkins than Long. Of course, that turned out to be true, Coleman became Mayor and the rest is history. I've seen quite a few seeking the endorsement and then running, i.e. Anne Harris and Joe Semarga, but they did not promise to honor the endorsement. My view from this side of the river. Dann Dobson Summit Hill - Saint Paul --- List manager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The drama that unfolded at Saturday's 8th Ward > Convention carried some > hard political lessons. Number one: If it's > politically expedient for > candidates to say that they'll bow out if someone > else receives a > coveted DFL endorsement, they'll say it. They'll > just make sure no > candidate gets the endorsement, so they can run > after the convention > and technically not break any promise. > > Hard political lesson number two: In a racially > divided part of town, > even a black veteran of Minneapolis politics can't > necessarily count on > the support of white voters. > > ..."What's happening here is obviously an example of > political > strategy," [candidate Titi] Bediako declared, > adding, perhaps a bit > hyperbolically, "but also straight-up white > nationalism." > > http://www.citypages.com/databank/26/1274/article13261.asp > > David Brauer > List mananger > > REMINDERS: > 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at > http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a > member is in violation, contact the list manager at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. > > 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. > > For state and national discussions see: > http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html > For external forums, see: > http://e-democracy.org/mninteract > ________________________________ > > Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused > Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy > Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org > Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: > http://e-democracy.org/mpls > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------- JOIN the St. Paul Issues Forum TODAY: http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/ ------------------------------------------------- POST MESSAGES HERE: stpaul@mnforum.org To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/