I've already decided that it isn't good for the US and other countries. But something about this story doesn't add up. We've known since July that this was coming, yet did nothing to stop it. Complaints by administration officials seem perfunctory at best. This could be some kind of well-crafted diversion. A way to deliver the next Stuxnet, perhaps?
What's of more concern to me is how some gay private with a grudge against the military was able to zick so much sensitive data with such ease. Seems to me that's where the real story is, yet no one is railing against that lapse. (Unless my diversion hypothesis is on the mark.) On Dec 2, 2010, at 11:20 AM, mex sara wrote: > crime or not undecided ....is it a copyright issue and i wonder about the > tax status of a stateless person ... apparently [ i have read]Wiki leaks has > been blocked here in Australia > they want to recind assange's australian passport ... and also arrest him if > he tries to enter the country ... so if he is made statteless woukd that make > him a refugee under the UN treaty for such things or would Ms Palins wish to > chase him like bin Laden and shoot him by the plan > > there is also chatter from aus government about putting the wikileak group on > list of terrorist organizations > > interestingly [ as far as i know as it is only possible to read what has been > released to foreign > newspapers here ... rereported on tv and in the local paper ... Australia is > not mentioned in the leaked documents [fairly sure they would beat up any > mention on the infotainments ] > > so the passport canceling and arresting etc would be all on behalf of USA as > part of the coalition of the Willing > > > > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Bruce Johnson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:29 PM, richardsan wrote: > > > assange...criminal or whistleblower hero? > > i lean more towards the later, for sure. it doesn't bode well for him. > > the doofusy looks educated and elite diplomats and politicians put on, when > > they get caught "being hooman" is worth watching their wriggling... he > > shouldn't be prosecuted for anything related to the data dumps...if he's > > proved guilty for the crimes he's accused of, that's ok too. > > Light needs to be shined under the rocks in a democracy or it rots. Far too > much of what is done in our names is done in secret, and this makes it easy > to lie to us. > > Assange's cooperated with the US government and offered prior access (with > the right of redaction) to the materials he's published, and frankly this > stuff is all either diplomatic gossip or blindingly obvious. > > (Gee, China might not react negatively to a stable, unified Korea? What, you > think they'd be UPSET about not having a nuclear-armed warmongering nutcase > and a million starving refugees on their southern border, while letting the > West pick up the tab for reunification? You got chocolate in my peanut butter! > > Silvio Berlusconi is a party-mad horndog? This fact was a major issue of his > last election campaign. Trumpeted by HIS campaign. "Vote for the Virile One" > > The fat Sunni princelings of the Arabian peninsula will gladly fight the > Shiite Iranians to the last Israeli and American soldier? Hoocoodaknowed?) > > More interesting are some of the older ones, like the senior diplomat in 1985 > talking about the Iranians and their 'mysterious persian ways' in language > better suited for the most jingoistic 19th century paternalistic British > colonialist discussing the cultural shortcomings of those wogs and their need > for firm British hand to bring them to a civilized life. > > Sweet zombie Jesus on a stick, if THAT'S the way we've approached the > Iranians, no WONDER we haven't gotten anything done! > > We have the guy who leaked the stuff in custody, and it raises a LOT of > interesting questions...such as: this was a guy working in Baghdad..how the > HELL was he able to access such a trove of State Department stuff? > > Assange is not an American citizen, he published this material outside of the > country, there is no crime he's committed, no matter how fervently some would > wish to do so. > > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "StrataList-OT" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/stratalist-ot?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "StrataList-OT" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/stratalist-ot?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "StrataList-OT" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/stratalist-ot?hl=en.
