On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Francis Drouillard <[email protected]>wrote:
> I'm not in favor of any of these proposals, largely because they can be > fixed by sending better people to Washington, DC. But I can't help but note > that it takes a real political class douche-bagger to blame the things this > proposal tries to correct on Tea Parties, who didn't exist when this list > started circulating. > > Tea Partiers are working effectively tea bagger legislators are like: ... sending in a first year high school biology student to do your open heart surgery. to replace many in the political class to restore our Republican form of > government. That they get blamed for everything by douche-baggers on the > left is a measure of their political effectiveness. But that red herring > will fail the left short as the policies they promote further erode our > economy and lifestyle: > > < > http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2011/08/10/attacking_tea_party_a_useless_red_herring_261232.html > > > > > On Aug 11, 2011, at 7:00 PM, TENEBRAE wrote: > > > Wow, Bruce, first time I can say I think you completely missed the point. > > -W > > > > > > On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > >> > >> On Aug 11, 2011, at 3:36 PM, John D wrote: > >> > >>> A friend who usually sends me forwarded email of a "conservative" > >>> nature just sent this. And damned if I don't agree. > >>> > >> > >> Bad idea...these sorts of things are generally rooted in deep ignorance. > >> > >> > >>> Keep this going. Let Congress sacrifice like the rest of us. This is > >>> an excellent idea. > >>> > >>> No matter what your political party, I think we are all pretty sick of > >>> Congress’s shenanigans. Maybe if they were brought down a peg, they > >>> might feel more like taking better care of the American people instead > >>> of themselves and their next election chances. I think this email is > >>> filled with excellent ideas, so I am passing it on. > >>> > >> > >> On the contrary, they are caring very well for the people they > represent. Since Money == Speech, their constituency is those who pay for > their campaigns. > >> > >>> The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took > >>> only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people > >>> demanded it. That was in 1971... Before computers, before e-mail, > >>> before cell phones, etc. > >> > >> And we were shipping 18-year-olds off to die by the thousands in a war > they had no say in.... > >> > >>> > >>> In three days, most people in The United States of America will have > >>> the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around. > >>> Congressional Reform Act of 2011 > >> > >> Damned teabaggers always too damn lazy to do things the right way "There > outta be a law!" > >>> > >>> 1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in > >>> office and receives no pay when they are out of office. > >> > >> Tenure? There is no congressional "tenure"; we hold elections every two > years. Want to toss the bums out? Do it the democratic way: elect someone > else. > >> > >>> > >>> 2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. > >>> All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social > >>> Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social > >>> Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. > >>> It may not be used for any other purpose. > >> > >> Well, this is moot anyway, since only a handful of members are getting > the congressional pension: congress has been on Social Security since the > early 80's... > >> > >> <http://www.snopes.com/politics/socialsecurity/pensions.asp> > >> > >>> > >>> 3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all > >>> Americans do. > >>> > >> > >> "All americans' ?? You're giving up on Social Security that easily? > >> > >> > >>> 4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional > >>> pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%. > >> > >> Only if the rest of us get these nice annual raises.. > >> > >>> > >>> 5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in > >>> the same health care system as the American people. > >> > >> That would be, as in most cases, provided by their employer...meaning > the same goddamn health plan they have now. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> 6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American > >>> people. > >>> > >> > >> Document cases where this is true? > >> > >>> 7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective > >>> 1/1/12. > >>> > >> > >> What? You want to throw out one of the foundations of capitalism > (contract law)? Good luck getting any contracts of your own honored in that > environment. > >> > >> > >>> The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. > >>> > >> > >> Yes we did. This is where is falls into stupid teabaggery. > >> > >> WE HAVE ELECTIONS! FEWER THAN HALF OF US BOTHER TO VOTE! We get the > Congress we vote for...literally. > >> > >>> > >>> THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!! > >> > >> No. > >> > >> THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!: > >> > >> <http://tinyurl.com/3zjlxwg> > >> > >> Democracy is hard and requires you to work...quit looking for shortcuts. > >> > >> -- > >> Bruce Johnson > >> > >> "Wherever you go, there you are" B. 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