On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> 
> On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Mugsy Lunsford wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
> 
> Well, It's dense, the paper's title is "Triclosan impairs 
> excitation–contraction coupling and Ca2+ dynamics in striated muscle".
> 
> <http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/triclosan_impairs 
> muscle_activity.pdf>
> 

Thanks.

>> Recently started making my own cleaning products, after realizing that the 
>> fresh lemonade/limeade booth at the market throws away a 5 gallon bucket 
>> worth of rinds every week. Fill big glass jars with rinds, pour white 
>> vinegar in up to the brim, cover, shake, let sit 2 weeks, decant. High acid 
>> content, strong citrus scent, can be used diluted for almost anything.
> 
> Substitute vodka for vinegar you also get a useful product. :-)

That'll be my winter project :D

>> 
>> If you wipe surfaces down with vinegar, and then lightly mist over that with 
>> hydrogen peroxide, it's a more effective anti-bacterial than chlorine, 
>> without the toxicity. 
> 
> Well, any bacteria that isn't killed by the mere presence of air is largely 
> unaffected by hydrogen peroxide, absent long soaking it the stuff. H202 is an 
> intracellular byproduct of aerobic metabolism. If aerobic organisms didn't 
> have hydrogen peroxidase in their cells they'd dissolve from the inside out. 
> It's why it foams up when you put it on cuts. 
> 
> H2O2 IS an effective bleaching agent, good on stains, but less antiseptic 
> than usually thought.

The argument I read was that the layered application of the two had a much 
greater effect than either singly or both mixed together. Since Teatree oil is 
also antibacterial, some folks put that in white vinegar, but it's fatal for 
cats, so I'm looking for other options. 

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