@Paul
Why don't you buy Stripes Book by Freddy. It helps me a lot as a newbie.
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Paul C <[email protected]> wrote:
> Stripes is a great framework in its common sense approach to form
> processing and
> action handling but as a newbie I'm ready to give up on it just like so
> many
> other java frameworks.
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> Someone please tell me I'm wrong but here are my main two complaints:
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> 1) No extention library with standard components for common tasks such as
> breadcrumbs and menus? Please don't preach to me about stripes stressing
> simplicity and that I can easily create a custom tag or use
> stripes:layout-component to do these things. Common sense says there
> should be
> a standard toolkit to do these things. ASP.NET makes it look so easy but
> for
> some reason java frameworks never address common sense issues like this in
> respectable way. Or at least why can't stripes:link behave like
> wicket:link so
> you don't have to waste hours deciding the best way to make a link on a
> menu
> look different or "selected" if it points to the current page?
>
> 2) Something like ASP.NET MasterPages or Wicket extendable panels seems
> more
> direct and efficient to create page layouts. With Stripes I'm finding that
> I
> need 3 or 4 layers of nested layouts with a bunch of overly verbose JSTL.
> Or
> that I need a bunch of helper classes and running action beans from a
> layout-component and using jsp:includes just to set up a standard page
> layout
> (header, menu, left panel, main panel, footer, etc...). FreeMarker helps
> avoid
> these things but I'm not finding good examples of advanced FreeMarker work
> with
> Stripes. Also, you can't easily view page compositions in a visual jsp or
> html
> editor with Stripes the way you can with Facelets, Wicket, MasterPages, or
> IBM
> RAD proprietary templating solutions.
>
> Stripes seems like the closest to being a real java based web framework.
> Why
> not close the deal? Its discomforting to think that monsters like Struts2
> or
> Seam will probably become the standards.
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