I think he meant "Load Balancer" by LB....

On Sep 22, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Joaquin Valdez wrote:

> Thank you Nikolaos for the great information and response!
> 
> I will get those exceptions and get them to you in a bit.
> 
> When I began using c3po and began to notice the oddities.  I began to  
> look around and see what else is out there.  I too found bonecp and  
> will investigate using that.
> 
> What is an LB ?
> 
> Thanks!
> Joaquin
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 22, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Nikolaos Giannopoulos wrote:
> 
>> Joaquin,
>> 
>> You really need to get a copy of those Exceptions... broken pipe on a
>> web / app server typically is quite normal as it can be as simple as
>> someone hitting the stop or the refresh button on their web browser
>> while the server was trying to process a request.
>> 
>> Also it may be a consequence of the fact that your application is  
>> losing
>> database connectivity... broken pages... people hitting refresh
>> repeatedly... etc... .  So if this is as frequent as you state then
>> simply put together some of the stack traces and send that out.
>> 
>> c3p0 has a number of settings that set out how many times it will  
>> retry,
>> the interval it will wait between retries and / or how long it will
>> retry before giving up, etc... and if IIRC some settings had to go  
>> in a
>> c3p0 properties file and NOT just in the persistence.xml (in fact in  
>> the
>> XML file they would be ignored).  Just google things and you should  
>> find
>> some pretty useful docs... .  I imagine this is your config problem
>> though this doesn't address why your connections are breaking in the  
>> 1st
>> place.
>> 
>> BTW is there a hardware LB in the picture?  Those are notorious for
>> chopping connections that remain idle for what is pretty much standard
>> at around 16 seconds.  This isn't an issue under low load as  
>> connections
>> simply get recycled at a high frequency... but get yourself up to
>> 10K-30K connections and voila log jam... the pool spends more time
>> trying to create connections than it can use and you end up with
>> something like 5000 TCP connections on the server.  Not fun indeed.   
>> But
>> ever so common on high end systems.
>> 
>> Lastly, as far as Connection Pool is concerned I have to say I have  
>> done
>> a fair amount of research and am quite disappointed that either  
>> projects
>> have been abandoned or not updated despite known issues...  IIRC there
>> were some synchronization bugs in c3p0 that can come up... so for  
>> now we
>> ended up looking at BoneCP and use that for now although I'm not sure
>> how well it can recover broken connections.
>> 
>> Oh... and I almost forgot... 2 reasons I imagine that Connection  
>> Pooling
>> projects have been more and more stale are b/c i) App Servers these  
>> days
>> have built in connection pooling functionality that should be pretty
>> good and ii) some consider them finished and sufficient for their
>> purposes... despite the growing list of possibly "rarer" issues,  
>> RFE's,
>> etc...
>> 
>> --Nikolaos
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Joaquin Valdez wrote:
>>> Hello!
>>> 
>>> I am wondering what the proper way of handling a database connection
>>> pool when it looses connection to the database.  My application will
>>> run fine for 2 weeks then it will start throwing broken pipe errors.
>>> I don't have the exact error but that is what the error says.  I  
>>> use a
>>> postgres database and the c3po hibernate connection pool.  How do I
>>> ensure connectivity is maintained?
>>> 
>>> Maybe a database connection interceptor?  Just an idea.....
>>> 
>>> Here is my persistence.xml file:
>>> 
>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>>> <persistence version="1.0" xmlns="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/
>>> persistence" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
>>> xsi:schemaLocation="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/persistence 
>>> http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/persistence/persistence_1_0.xsd
>>> ">
>>>    <persistence-unit name="loginPU" transaction- 
>>> type="RESOURCE_LOCAL">
>>>        <provider>org.hibernate.ejb.HibernatePersistence</provider>
>>>        <exclude-unlisted-classes>false</exclude-unlisted-classes>
>>>        <properties>
>>>            <property name="hibernate.cache.provider_class"
>>> value="org.hibernate.cache.NoCacheProvider"/>
>>>            <property name="hibernate.archive.autodetection"
>>> value="class"/>
>>>            <property name="hibernate.dialect"
>>> value="org.hibernate.dialect.PostgreSQLDialect"/>
>>>            <property name="jdbc.batch_size" value="0"/>
>>>      <!-- Testing DB -->
>>>      <!-- Fiveish DB -->
>>>      <!-- <property name="hibernate.connection.username"
>>> value="xxxxxxxx"/>
>>>      <property name="hibernate.connection.password"
>>> value="xxxxxxxxx"/>
>>>      <property name="hibernate.connection.url"
>>> value="jdbc:postgresql://localhost/cheapdb"/> -->
>>>      <!-- configuration connection pool via c3p0-->
>>>            <property name="c3p0.acquire_increment" value="1"/>
>>>            <property name="c3p0.idle_test_period" value="3000"/>
>>>      <!-- seconds -->
>>>            <property name="c3p0.max_size" value="20"/>
>>>            <property name="c3p0.max_statements" value="50"/>
>>>            <property name="c3p0.min_size" value="5"/>
>>>            <property name="c3p0.timeout" value="100"/>
>>>            <property name="hibernate.show_sql" value="true"/>
>>>            <property name="hibernate.connection.driver_class"
>>> value="org.postgresql.Driver"/>
>>> 
>>>      <!-- Dev -->
>>> 
>>>            <property name="hibernate.connection.username"
>>> value="xxxxxxxx"/>
>>>            <property name="hibernate.connection.password"
>>> value="xxxxxxxx"/>
>>>            <property name="hibernate.connection.url"
>>> value="jdbc:postgresql://localhost/postgres"/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>      <!-- Production -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>>            <!-- <property name="hibernate.connection.username"
>>> value="xxxxxxxx"/>
>>>            <property name="hibernate.connection.password"
>>> value="xxxxxxxxxx"/>
>>>            <property name="hibernate.connection.url"
>>> value="jdbc:postgresql://localhost/joaquinv_cheap"/> -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>            <property name="hibernate.hbm2ddl.auto" value="update"/>
>>>        </properties>
>>>    </persistence-unit>
>>> </persistence>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Joaquin
>>> 
>>> 
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