Remi,
Man... why couldn't you have just said: "I agree that 1.5.4 should be
released as I have no issues with it" or just "OK". It would have had
the effect of what you and I and a number of other people are asking
for... a timely release of 1.5.4... all things considered.
While nothing you say is overtly wrong, you need to understand the tone
and candor of your comments are alarming to some who have not had issues
with nested layouts OR have not had time to test BUT who have come to
expect solid releases for Stripes. I know you didn't intend any
mis-direction with your comment but unfortunately not everyone will read
or get every nuance of every e-mail.
And yes - releases can be re-released - and we have you to thank for the
Maven release piece but honestly lets not go there... agreed ;-)
Anyone else have any issues with nested layouts in 1.5.4 or 1.5.4 please
speak up "now".
Cheers,
--Nikolaos
VANKEISBELCK Remi wrote:
Hi,
The question is about the nested layouts feature that Ben included
weeks ago. Remember ? He even asked for testing at that time... Not
sure I remember you whining people sending anything concrete, like
test cases. At least no such thing got commited in our webtests... anyway.
I have been talking with Ben about it and he said that according to
him the nested layouts feature is ready unless someone has a problem
with it. Since no one has a problem, and since it was the feature we
waited for in order to release, I suggested to go for it. We're not
gonna spend months with this stuff.
Many people is waiting for 1.5.4 to be officially released. If you're
not, well, just stick to 1.5.3. Also, many people have tried out the
1.5.4-SNAPSHOT version. So I don't think there's any reason to panic
here...
Now for the "if it has a problem we'll release again" : that's what
every software does, isn't it ? I mean, there are bugs, we fix them,
we release... Moreover, now that releasing into maven central is a
one-command operation or almost, I don't see the problem. Even a
"critical" issue (which doesn't seem to be the case for now) would not
really serious : just rollback and keep 1.5.3 in the meantime we fix
the bug.
Don't make me wrong : I don't say it's classy to release with a
blocker. But it ain't classy to wait forever either, and again, 1.5.4
has already been out for a while as a SNAPSHOT so it should be tested
the best we can...
Sometimes, you just need balls :P
Anyway, unless you guys have a problem with the layouts thing, I don't
see why you complain. No layout problem found ? Well, let's go. That
was my point.
Cheers
Remi
2010/11/9 gshegosh <g...@karko.net <mailto:g...@karko.net>>
W dniu 09.11.2010 22:29, Nikolaos Giannopoulos pisze:
What is the issue you have with the 1.5.4 release going live?
Personally I have no issue with 1.5.4 release going live since it
works splendidly for me on Glassfish 3 even with my quirky CMS
stuff based on layouts.
What I have disagree with is the approach that Remi seems to be
supporting:
"And if this layout thing actually turns out to be a disaster,
well, we'll fix and re-release."
In my opinion, either the feature is working, or it's out of the
release. I'm not current with the state of layout tags
modifications, if they are confirmed to be working, let 1.5.4 be
released; I based my previous post on that single sentence which
could suggest they are NOT fully confirmed to be working.
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