On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, David Winterfeldt wrote:
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:50:58 -0800 (PST)
> From: David Winterfeldt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Validator integration in Struts
>
> I've been thinking about the inclusion of the Struts
> driver/interface to the Validator with the Commons
> version. Some of my concerns are as follows. If
> Struts is included, what is the criteria for including
> another driver? I wouldn't want to be exclusive, but
> I wouldn't want to get into having to maintain drivers
> for frameworks I don't use or understand. One
> solution I can think of would be if a Commons commiter
> would volunteer to maintain that driver/interface and
> I could help them. The only other issue is that if
> the driver is in Commons then the example web apps and
> cactus unit tests would be there too. It doesn't seem
> like this should be there. Maybe that is just because
> there aren't any other Commons projects doing this
> yet, but there will be in the future.
>
I was thinking that it would make more sense to keep the Struts-specific
bindings for Commons packages inside of the Struts repositories, instead
of in commons. That way, the Commons committers on a particular package
don't have to maintain all the bindings, and we don't make Struts a
compile-time dependency for the Commons package.
It worked that way with DynaBeans (DynaActionForm lives here, not there),
and seems like a reasonable approach. What do you think?
> David
Craig
>
> --- Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'd say we need to build-in the Service Manager, and
> > then use the
> > Commons Validator as an standard example of how to
> > use it.
> >
> > Since the Commons Validator is designed as a
> > plug-in, I would lean
> > toward suggesting that it host its own "drivers".
> > This way if someone
> > finds a way to hook the validator up to framework X,
> > they can contribute
> > it to the Commons Validator, regardless of whether
> > framework X wants to
> > carry it or not. Having these together also works as
> > a very helpful
> > example for the next framework that wants to hook
> > up.
> >
> > Ditto for Tiles. It's designed to plug into other
> > frameworks, and it
> > seems to me it should then carry its own plugs.
> >
> > Since both David and Cedric are Struts committers,
> > so its just as easy
> > for them to commit the code here as there -- but
> > that's really just a
> > conincidence. A component is only as good as the
> > things it plugs into,
> > and these components need to control their own
> > destiny, and not rely on
> > the kindness of strangers.
> >
> > We can carry documentation in the User Guide
> > regarding how to use
> > Commons-Validator, Tiles, Velocity and whatever else
> > with Struts, and
> > I'll help write it, but I'm thinking the code level
> > interfaces really
> > belong with the components, and not so much with the
> > framework(s).
> >
> > -Ted.
> >
> >
> > David Winterfeldt wrote:
> > > Martin had mentioned in Commons whether or not to
> > move
> > > the Struts Validator interface out of commons and
> > into
> > > Struts proper. Any thoughts on this? It was on
> > the
> > > original 1.1 to do list to have a validation
> > framework
> > > built in. I could go either way, but I think it
> > would
> > > be nice if it was in the core. Especially since
> > there
> > > are so few classes left since most are in the
> > Commons
> > > now (6 classes plus one or two to be added for a
> > > ValidatorDynaActionForm).
> > >
> > > David
> > >
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