No, what you did was the equivalent of punching someone in the face whilst saying sorry. If you were really sorry, you wouldn�t have posted it in the first place. In fact, your entire post may have been more effective had you asked Eddie what he plans to do to contribute to the Struts effort - rather than poke him with facetious comments.
I concur that I have had my reservations about Eddie. That's not to say I disagree with his committer status, but I reserve my final judgement until we see what Eddie can really do. One thing is apparent thus far - he is willing to get involved, and get his hands dirty, and unlike the majority of committers - he is also very willing to listen to what us mortals have to say. That's not to say that the other committers arent listening, don�t get me wrong - but Eddie is interactive. And there is bound to be a period of uncertainty as Eddie finds his feet. If he's wrong for the job, I'm sure the other committers will deal with it as they see fit. But in order for Eddie to have been elevated to committer status, the other committers must have seen some value in him. Give him a chance. > -----Original Message----- > From: Trieu, Danny [mailto:DTrieu@;downeysavings.com] > Sent: 18 October 2002 17:24 > To: 'Struts Developers List' > Subject: RE: [VOTE] How should Tiles be refactored?How > > > Yes, I am guilty of the crime I committed and I already said > 'I am sorry'. Do you want me to > Said it again for you? > > --danny > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chanoch [mailto:mail@;chanoch.com] > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 9:04 AM > To: 'Struts Developers List' > Subject: RE: [VOTE] How should Tiles be refactored?How > > > If this list turns into another Tomcat dev abuse list I think > it will be put many people off - I don't think these types of > comments are contructive in any way - i.e. they don't > contribute to the effort or the list and you are therefore > guilty of the crime you accuse Eddie of. > > If you have a different way of saying what you want from him > then perhaps that would be helpful. > > chanoch > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or privileged material. 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I have high respect for the > 'OG' Struts contributors, lik Craig, Ted, Cedric, and many > others group users, whose believe in making a different in > raising web application development to a higher standard. > Every since I see your name appear on the list, I Starting to > wonder??? Eddie, beside 'entertaining' people do you have any > other thing to do? May be, A real Job?..... > > --danny > > Ps. If I've offended anyone, I am sorry !!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie Bush [mailto:ekbush@;swbell.net] > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 7:02 AM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: [VOTE] How should Tiles be refactored?How > > > Cedric Dumoulin wrote: > > > Eddie Bush wrote: > > > >> Hi again, Cedric :-) > >> > >> We need to "hurry" 1.1, and the only way I see to do that > is for each > > >> of us to agree to seperatism in 1.1 - understanding and > *expecting* > >> that 1.2 will be our chance to solve the problems we > wanted to solve > >> in 1.1 but couldn't (because of time). > > > > I am sorry, but I still disagree on the "separatism" point ;-). Or > > maybe we don't understand the same thing by "separatism". > Tiles is a > > framework to share common piece of work. You can't say now: Tiles > > allow to share work, but you still have to duplicate when you use > > module ! > > I'm going to shut up now :-) I was just looking at ways to > expedite 1.1F. > > > The Ted's proposal is a good starting point. We need now > to check if > > it fulfill simple needs, and if there is no incompatibility with > > complex cases. I will check that with existing applications. > > Implementing it doesn't seem too complicated. > > Even having seperatism in 1.1 would be better than the > current support > non-default modules have -- wouldn't you agree? It's one step in the > right direction. I *do* realize what I suggest is less than > desirable > -- and I personally wouldn't complain if you commited code > that gave us > something better -- but we should be focused primarily on 1.1F having > modules that work - even if not as "fully" as we'd like (ie. there is > not sharing). > > > Cedric > > As I said, I'm going to shut up and find something else to fix. It > sounds like you have this well in-hand, and "discussing it to > death" is > just going to prolong the process of effecting whatever change comes. > > -- > Eddie Bush > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:struts-dev-> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For > additional commands, > e-mail: <mailto:struts-dev-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:struts-dev-> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For > additional commands, > e-mail: <mailto:struts-dev-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:struts-dev-> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For > additional commands, > e-mail: <mailto:struts-dev-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:struts-dev-> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For > additional commands, > e-mail: <mailto:struts-dev-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.401 / Virus Database: 226 - Release Date: 09/10/2002 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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