The version to try for windoze is lugaru / epsilon. If you learn the keystrokes you will never give it up.
Edgar -----Original Message----- From: Phase Web and Multimedia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:48 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: [OT]AW: Why are people are up on Struts Just because you guys are talking so highly about emacs... I'm gonna have to go back and try it on some things for a while. Thanks a lot! I hate it when people tell me things that strike my curiosity and make me think... "Hmmmm, maybe I passed that up to hastily" Brandon Goodin Phase Web and Multimedia P (406) 862-2245 F (406) 862-0354 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phase.ws > -----Original Message----- > From: Phase Web and Multimedia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:42 AM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts > > > It's a trade-off. Many of the great plugins and such that are supplied > with a well developed (cross-platform) ide are far better in my book > for development at large. I only resort to emacs/vi/pico when i am > editing files > on a server remotely. But, I am in control of all the code I write and I'm > not writing any perl or c/c++. Straight JAVA is what I write. So emacs is > not that efficient to me. > > P.S. Eclipse is a great ide and has a format method that cleans up > messy java code quite nice. But, it lack great search and replace > features that emacs does have. > > Brandon Goodin > Phase Web and Multimedia > P (406) 862-2245 > F (406) 862-0354 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.phase.ws > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Benjamin Tomasini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:15 AM > > To: Struts Developers List > > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts > > > > > > Normally a reader only in this list, but here are 2 cents... > > > > With a basic knowledge of Emacs, Ant, and Perl you can conquer the > > world faster than with any IDE I know of. And conquer it from > > pretty much any shell - bash, X, even Windows! > > > > Plus, Emacs is great for cleaning up messy code. Its indent feature > > in java-mode (cc-mode) is quite handy. > > > > On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 14:00, Eddie Bush wrote: > > > I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I much prefer > > > Emacs. 'Course nowadays, assuming you're using an x terminal (or > > > are on > > > windows) both of them are fairly easily used through their > toolbars ... > > > at least, I think vim has one now (or can perhaps - nearly > certain). I > > > suppose that's for the "mortals" among us ;-O I just go for > > the "arcane > > > key sequences" personally - so much more efficient. One nifty > > > thing I really like about Emacs is that, sometimes I can remember > > > the command name but not it's key sequence - and it tells you what > > > the sequence is once you invoke it the "long" way. So, I can keep > > > important shortcuts in my head, and, when I run across a situation > > > that requires me to use something that I don't recall the shortcut > > > for, I can invoke it > > manually > > > and get a referesher on what the sequence is to invoke it. I > > > really like that feature :-) It works great so long as you can > > > remember the "command name" or ... at least have an idea (as it > > > has completion assistance for commands too). > > > > > > David Graham wrote: > > > > > > > I like vi now that I know how to use it but why couldn't they > > > > put common commands at the bottom of the screen for us mortals? > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Eddie Bush > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
