I have used Eclipse a couple of times, just to see how it worked. For me, I
just didn't "get it". I couldn't understand how I was supposed to set up a
project. Then, I couldn't edit jsp's or xml in it. Now there are plugins,
but I don't know how good they are. I do know, they don't stand a chance
against IDEA.
I am another person that spent his own money on IDEA. Setting up a project
was a breeze. JSP's have auto complete and syntax highlighting. Same goes
for XML. Even without a DTD, IDEA offers you choices of the tags you have
previously used. As others have mentioned, you don't have to take your hand
off the keyboard to do anything. Everything has a key mapped to it to make
life easy.
Speaking of making life easy... If you type SomeClass sc = new SomeClass();
if you haven't imported SomeClass yet, IDEA offers to add the import for
you. To say yes, just hit ALT+ENTER. As a matter of fact, you will learn
to hit ALT+ENTER and CTRL+SPACE often. They are your friend. Getters and
Setters? They are an ALT+INSERT, UPKEY, UPKEY, ENTER away. Oh, and when it
adds code for you, it follows the code format that you have set, so you
don't have to go back and put your { in the right place. Oh yeah, and most
of these capabilities are in Eclipse, or Jbuilder... But they require you to
use your mouse, or they "Just don't get it right."
I am starting to sound like an infomercial... But IDEA is the greatest tool
ever.
Carl
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason L. Buberel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:05 AM
To: Struts Developers List
Subject: Re: [OT] IDEA was "Struts/.NET (was JavaPro)"
I'd have to concur with Arron on IDEA vs. Eclipse. I was so impressed by
IDEA
that I also shelled out the $300 license from my own pocket even though
Eclipse is free.
The ability to map any command to a keyboard shortcut is indeed wonderful.
It
integrates well with perforce (which we use at work), and is generally more
stable, faster, and is better at memory management, from what I can tell.
-jason
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 09:10 pm, Arron Bates wrote:
> > > And IDEA may be the best developer's UI ever invented.
> >
> > Ted, would you mind comparing IDEA to Eclipse a little
> > bit, if you have time? Not a full blown feature-by-feature review,
> > just highlights.
>
> I've used the latest Eclipse, and it's ok, but it's not IDEA.
>
> Eclipse has many of the features IDEA has, but not all, and they're
> not quite as well integrated. They have live templates, but IDEA's are
> easier to invoke etc etc. Eclipse have taken on some of the features
> to the degree that they seem to have even ripped off some of the icons
> (eg. the little light globe for code hints).
>
> Take custom keymaps. Eclipse can finally do custom key maps, but only
> for _some_ functions. IDEA can keymap _any_ function. The entire
> keymap for the whole IDE is changeable. You can even set keymaps to
> run your own ANT targets. I _really_ dig this. For repetitive tasks, I
> have an ANT build file full of messy things I've keymapped to make
> life easier.
>
>
> All the little stuff, it's toe-to-toe. But the big ones like the local
> in built version control and the diff tool are not there, and they're
> awesome tools. The diff tool, is great, shows up things in a flash.
> Local version control, didn't know you needed it until you have it.
> IDEA keeps a version history of _all_ your changes to files regardless
> of any other versioning system for the team. Basically, it rocks. Set
> labels and things, roll back to last known good versions... it's now
> indispensible.
>
> One of the killer features about the local VCS, is that IDEA unlike
> any other editor I've ever seen, can undo global search and replaces
> in your project for the entire undo histroy. too cool for words.
>
>
> You'll find that people using IDEA will swear by it. I dig it so much
> they got my money from my own wallet, in spite of other editors being
> free and my stingy tendencies. :P
>
> There's a demo available, best way to find out is to suck it and see.
>
>
> Arron.
>
> > I've historically always been restricted to whatever
> > my employer gives me (which has usually been JBuilder),
> > so I have little experience in different UIs. Things
> > are about to change though :)
> >
> > -TPP
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