--- Rick Hightower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am not a voter, but I think....
> 
> Comments below...
> 
> 
> Rick Hightower
> Chief Technology Officer
> Trivera Technologies
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>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Raeburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:20 PM
> To: Struts Developers List
> Subject: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] -
> Enhancement of the html:link tag)
> 
> I'm not singling Vic out for this (honest) but...
> 
> The standard advice we are now giving everyone is "use JSTL", which I
> wholeheartedly agree with and have said myself. However, I think we need
> to
> make sure that we still adequately support non-JSTL solutions and
> continue
> to consider bug fixes/enhancements to Struts tags EVEN where it would
> duplicate JSTL functionality because Struts still supports JSP
> 1.1/Servlet2.2.
> 
> ************ I don't think fixing non-JSTL tags should take priority. I
> think deprecated tags like logic:iterate, and their ilk should receive
> very
> little attention. BTW I am going to make a concerted effort to
> contribute to
> this project. Please excuse me while I am new if I make any snafu. (I
> have
> some stuff and ideas in the works. Mostly bug fix type ideas.)
> 
> I haven't considered whether this particular enhancement would fall into
> the
> category of something we should do, it just prompted me to raise the
> issue.
> 
> If we've reached the stage where the recommendations we are making
> *require*
> JSTL, then I think it's time to be honest about the required platform
> for
> Struts and up it to 1.1/2.3
> 
> **************** I think Struts 1.2 and higher should *require* JSTL
> tags,
> and overlapping Struts tags should be deprecated (aren't they already).
> If
> this is not feasible for Struts 1.2, then Struts 1.3 or 1.5 or
> 1.whatever.


What's the rush?  Why does Struts 1.x need to require JSTL?  They are
independent technologies that can be used together if the developer
chooses.  The Struts tags work in their current form and I agree that
enhancing them is time better spent elsewhere.  But fixing bugs is still
necessary so that the tags are as stable as possible for the people still
stuck on Servlet 2.2 containers.

IMO, Struts 2.x should attempt to get out of the taglib business
altogether.  Until then, we should just let the tags be and maintain
Struts 1.x as Servlet 2.2 minimum requirement.

David


> 
> Use JSTL instead of Struts-Equivalent Tags
>       Use core:out instead of bean:write 
>       Use core:set instead of bean:define 
>       Use JSTL core:if and core:forEach instead of Struts logic:*
>       Use frmt tags in place of bean:message (if possible)
>       Use JSTL EL Engine in Your Own Custom Tags
> 
> I don't know how well the JSTL i18n support plays with the Struts i18n
> support as I am only familiar with the latter and not the former at
> least
> not on a carnal level.
> 
> Steve
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: August 27, 2003 8:28 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag
> >
> >
> > DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG
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> > <http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21465>.
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> >
> > http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21465
> >
> > Enhancement of the html:link tag
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:
> >
> >            What    |Removed                     |Added
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----------
> >              Status|ASSIGNED                    |RESOLVED
> >          Resolution|                            |WONTFIX
> >
> >
> >
> > ------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 2003-08-28 03:27 -------
> > You can/should use JSTL instead.
> > .V
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