Craig R. McClanahan wrote:

On Sat, 6 Sep 2003, David Graham wrote:



Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 10:55:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to
   XHTML]


--- Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Robert Leland wrote:
> Do we want to hold a formal vote/lazy consensus on what doc
> system we are moving to ?

Don already put the Struts SourceForge site on Forrest, so I would lean
in that direction.


Does Forrest require that look and feel?  If so, I'm -1 only because it
doesn't match the new Jakarta look and feel.  I think Struts should fit in
with other Jakarta sites.  Also, it seems like most other Jakarta projects
are using Maven so maybe we should too.




Strictly from the selfish point of view of a developer wanting to minimize
how many tools I have to use, I'd prefer Maven over Forrest simply because
it's also a build system. Or, to put it anothe way, using Maven as a
build system will give us a website/docs publishing system for free.


+1 free is good

Visually, I'm not a huge fan of either system's default L&F, but I don't
dislike either of them enough to vote -1 on that basis. My understanding
is that there is some room for customization with either, though, if we
wanted to expend the effort to manage our own L&F.


We can always start a struts-2 web site and tweak it until we like what we have,
or until it works, which ever comes first ! I also wouldn't want to maintain a seperate
look and feel.... except to move the blasted [powered by Maven] icon to the bottom of
the page with other icons like in forrest.


The argument for consistency with other Jakarta subprojects
is good in theory, but I don't see most Jakarta subproject websites using
either yet -- at least for their pages on jakarta.apache.org.  It would
also not be an issue if we ever wanted to become a top-level Apache
project (like Maven and Ant did), versus staying under Jakarta.



David



Craig


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