Thanks for your reply, Craig. Your assurance is encouraging.

A couple of questions:

1. I think, correct me if I'm wrong, JSF's components are event-driven, 
like what Swing does, and the server-side needs the infrastructure (some 
servlets?) to handle the events. If so, I'm wondering how Struts controller 
can jell with this infrastructure.

2. Is there timetable for the publicly available spec draft?

3. Is there timetable for the Early Access impl?

I hope answering these are still within your NDA boundary.

p.s. I saw the other thread on the multi-app support you checked in. Good 
work! (Do you sleep? :) I should check it out soon.
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John



At 09:17 pm 13-01-2002 -0800, you wrote:


>On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, John Yu wrote:
>
> > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:13:34 +0800
> > From: John Yu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Comptability of JSR 127 and Struts [Was: SHORT TERM PLANS]
> >
> > I'm wondering how JSR-127 will fit with Struts.
> >
>
>It's too early to know much, but I'm confident about the long term
>outcome.
>
> > While it's beyond my comprehension how JSR-127 will look like and offer, I
> > have this gut feeling that there is an architectural impedance. Frankly,
> > it's still vague to me what and how JSR-127 tries to achieve and I always
> > thought the JSR-127 effort would somehow overlap a lot with Struts.
> >
> > Can someone shed some light on this? (Martin, I think you mentioned you saw
> > the demo in JavaOne. And Craig, I think you are on the expert group?)
>
>Yes, I am on the expert group forFaces (and for the JSP Standard Tag
>Library, JSTL).  Discussions are ongoing, and good progress towards
>defining a good architecture for GUI components is being made.
>
>In general terms, I look at JavaServer Faces (and the JSP Standard Tag
>Library) as "mainstream" efforts that will, ultimately, supplant the use
>of the majority of the Struts custom tag libraries.  We'll continue to
>support the existing libraries (there are *way* too many apps using them
>to consider deprecating them :-), but I am not putting any attention on
>major functional improvements in the areas that Faces and JSTL are going
>to cover.  Instead, I'm going to be focusing my personal attention on
>things like the multi-application support (just checked in), and
>integration of the workflow project that is in the Commons sandbox.
>
>Happily, the Struts controller doesn't care what technology was used to
>create the user interface -- it deals with request parameters and request
>dispatcher forwards.  We may need to do a little bit of glue work to
>emulate some of the "automatic" interactions between form beans and the UI
>compoennts, but I don't anticipate any significant hurdles in this
>respect.
>
>I would encourage future-looking Struts applcation developers to start
>learning the JSP Standard Tag Library (JSTL) now -- you can get the early
>access release from <http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs> -- and be ready to
>examine an early access release of Faces if and when the Expert Group is
>ready to share one.
>
> > --
> > John
> >
>
>Craig McClanahan

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