Vic, Thanks for the clarification. I do want to stress again (because I know how easily folks can be misunderstoon in this medium) that I was not criticizing your offor or motives. I admire you for making the offer, and appreciate your desire to inspire folks to move struts to a 1.1Final release. I do think tho' that this clarification does make a bit more sense.
Thanks again for your support. Dave Derry ----- Original Message ----- From: "V. Cekvenich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "offered only for reported bugs that don't already have a patch submitted." > > OK. > Also I meant new fixes to the current bugs, not any new ones. > > It was meant to help people focus. I have no way of helping existing > contributors without being even more cheesy. > And majority of people are doing it for many other reasons. There were > posts prior of people asking other people to step up and support Struts, > so I did. > > .V > > > David Derry wrote: > > Vic, this is a very generous offer, and I'm sure most appreciated. I'm > > curious tho' how you came up with the figure of $135. When I want to come up > > with a round figure I think of $100 or $150, maybe $125. I'm curious how you > > arrived at the odd figure of $135. > > > > That aside, I posted bug #13030 against Validaor. But at the time that I > > posted it, I also posted a patch. I noticed this problem because when I got > > into work that morning and started my app, Validator failed because the > > Jakarta site was down. But stuts was able to initialize. I recalled seeing > > postings on the users list that struts was able to use the DTDs in the jar > > file. So I took the opportunity to determine how struts was able to do this > > when Validator didn't. The patch that I submitted was very simple, and was > > actually little more than a cut and paste from the struts initialization > > code. Although, as I said, I appreciate and respect your offer, I would feel > > ...... oh I don't know..............cheesy if I were to accept your offer. > > There are any number of folks who have worked hard, and long hours I'm sure, > > to make struts a success who deserve much more. The little that I have > > contributed has already paid me back more than I have actually contributed, > > merely from the knowledge that I gained making this patch. Also, it made me > > feel REALLY GOOD to be able to contribute that little bit. > > > > Another thing, and again I am not criticizing, your offer is extremely > > generous; but in this case at least a patch was submitted at the time that > > the bug was reported. Your reward, I feel, would be more effective if it was > > offered only for reported bugs that don't already have a patch submitted. > > That would provide insentive for someone to fix the problem. There really > > isn't much insentive in the case where a patch has already been submitted. > > > > So I would like to thank you for your offer, but it just doesn't seem right > > to me that someome (like myself) could fix one little bug and get paid for > > it when others have devoted so much time and effort for nothing more than th > > e satifaction that they get, and the thanks of those whose jobs they have > > made easier. I personally have benefited far more than I have contributed. > > And I have learned a great deal from lurking on the mailing lists. That is > > more than payment enough for me. I just wish that I was able to contribute > > more. > > > > I want to express my thanks, as well as my respect and admiration, for every > > one who has worked so hard; who have sacrificed so much time and effort, to > > make struts the great product that it is. I have learned a great deal from > > you guys. > > > > Dave Derry > > > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:struts-dev-help@;jakarta.apache.org>