12/12/2002 5:29:23 AM, Joseph Ottinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Ted Husted wrote:
>> Given the large community behind Struts, we do have our share 
>> of zealots. And, I agree that people who believe Struts is 
>> "42" are not being realistic.

>I think it goes back to a lot of people - including myself - who 
>think that zealots of any stripe are retarded, and people who 
>don't know any better get reminded - IRC-fashion - that there are 
>other alternatives. 

I think Struts may attract more than it share of zealots simply 
because Craig is a friendly guy and makes people feel welcome. I 
originally looked harder at Struts than other products just 
because I enjoyed Craig's demeanor on the list. And, like many 
others, I stuck around because people were helpful and made Struts 
easier to use. When my turn came, I helped others along. The cycle 
continues. People Craig and I have helped are now helping others. 
(Good thing, since both of us seem swamped lately!)

This is really the essence of "Apache marketing". We do put 
community before technology. Struts isn't popular because of the 
Apache name or because of economic engineering by an evil empire. 
It's popular because we do things the Apache Way and put people 
first. 

Of course, people outside the community can't see that, and so 
wonder why Struts is the most popular framework when it is 
arguably not the most powerful or easiest to grasp. 

It's popular, because, gosh, people ~like~ us =:0)

-Ted.





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