Agreed,What is also interesting is that the TM2 to Struts matrix/feature
comparison nearly every column
matches "Yes".  So if this is the case, how can Struts "Not have it's act
together?"

-----Original Message-----
From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Stuts can't "get its act together" - JavaPro


What amuses me most about Struts' critics is that they often have their own
framework to sell.    TurboM2 claims that Struts has no client side
validation support nor IDE plugins.

David


>I found this announcement today on JavaPro's August Issue online "In Brief"
>site:
>http://www.ftponline.com/javapro/2003_08/magazine/departments/inbrief/defau
lt.asp
>
>The blurb:
>Developer Tools
>TurboM2
>Tired of waiting for The Apache Group to get its act together with the
>Struts initiative, Virtuas has launched a framework of its own. Virtuas
>released TurboM2 previously under the name Web Application Model (WAM).
>Since then, the company decided to alter the product to perform many of the
>features Struts offers, and like Struts will be released under the open
>source model.
>
>There's more, but on casual inspection it appears that JavaPro has simply
>regurgitated some marketing poo from Virtuas intended to convey the
>impression that Struts is in a funk and not moving forward. (so one should
>naturally move to Virtuas' TurboM2 product)
>
>Upon casual inspection it appears that TurboM2 is a fairly direct clone of
>Struts. On of Virtuas' value-added claims is that TurboM2 has available
>support and training that Struts does not.
>
>Links:
>Virtuas TurboM2: http://www.turbom2.org/index.html
>Struts/TurboM2 comparison: http://www.turbom2.org/docs/Comparison.pdf
>
>The part that disturbs me is JavaPro's presenting this whole pile as if it
>were truth. Someone reading this article could well be persuaded that yes,
>indeed, Struts is in trouble and they should look elsewhere. I've been less
>than impressed with JavaPro's content for some time, and this erodes my
>confidence in their editorial control and knowledge of the Java world even
>further.
>
>

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