One other minor problem with maven is that, for folks behind an http proxy,
it pukes trying to download the dependencies...

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From: Joe Germuska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 11:34 AM
To: Struts Developers List
Subject: Re: Struts web site [was: Re: Conversion of web site docs to XHTML]

>I don't actually care, and, lacking a basis of comparison, I don't 
>even know if what we have now is broken. Will Maven or Forrest be 
>less work? If so, great. Personally, I don't care about the "look 
>and feel" issues. It looks the way it looks. I just want to know if 
>it will make better use of our volunteer time.

One big gain from going to Maven is that it makes the barrier to 
working with the code very low.  Long-time committers may not 
remember so well, but it takes a fair bit of configuration to get a 
Struts build working.   Meanwhile, Maven downloads all the 
dependencies for you, and can generate IDE projects for several of 
the major IDEs (with the exception of Netbeans, I think because NB 
uses object serialization instead of text files to store project 
configurations.)

So a potential gain would be for more Struts users to hop over the 
wall to being Struts developers.  Of course, there's a lot more to 
that than just being able to compile changes to the source tree, but 
being able to build Struts from source is obviously the first step to 
reviewing bugs, trying fixes, and submitting patches.

Rob is right that we don't HAVE to move the CVS around to use Maven 
-- and with the possible exception of the integration testing, I 
don't foresee any major complexities.   It looks like this weekend is 
another wash for me in terms of "project time" but I'll see if I can 
find some time this week to see where Rob is with "maven-izing" 
Struts and see if I can help at all.

Joe

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