Ted,

> Hey! What's Clarion doing about Java these days? Once upon a time, I
> was Secretary of the CUG hereabouts.
>
At first I was going to reply privately, but actually there may be 
something of interest here for Clarion developers and (some) Struts 
developers. 

For those not familiar with Clarion, it's a Windows application 
development environment with some pretty useful template-driven code 
generation technology. Although Clarion is pretty much only used for 
generating code in the Clarion language, there are a lot of 
possibilities for generating code in other languages. Back in '96 I 
wrote some templates to generate Java code, but they were fairly 
primitive. 

In 1999 at the Florida DevCon TopSpeed announced that Java was their 
language of choice for multi-tier, distributed applications, and 
Clarion would stay their language of choice for client/server. But 
their internet vision was unclear, and they eventually split into 
SoftVelocity (Bob Zaunere, pres, Clarion technologies) and Sensium 
(Arthur Barrington, consulting, web). SoftVelocity has focused on 
restoring some stability to the Clarion product. AFAIK they're more 
likely to go C# than Java because it would be an easier migration path. 

OTOH I think Clarion generating Struts code could be a powerful tool. 
One of the problems discussed here is the necessity of creating a bean 
for each form. Clarion excels at generating that kind of stuff. I've 
pointed Struts out to SV but they're still a new company and they have 
their hands full. 

Of course, there's nothing stopping anyone from writing their own 
templates to do this, assuming you use Windows as your development 
platform, and can afford a copy of Clarion. 

Dave

Dave Harms
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