"Robert J. Sanford, Jr." wrote:

> is there a beta of webappwriter that we can download now that
> expresso4 has been officially released?

webAppWriter for Struts/Expresso4.0 is currently functioning and serving up
Expresso applications (a struts implementation with many other features) at
http://webAppWriter.com

...HOWEVER...it is still an early release, the documentation and 30 or so sample
applications are still stuck at Expresso 3.11 level (no struts) and other
features are not yet tested. It will probably be Dec 1st before these are up to
date.

It will not be formally announced until then, but it will still whoop out a
pretty amazing meg or two worth of jsps, controllers, etc for you to use right
now, and I have installed entire secured custom web apps for a customer here in
Dallas with a couple dozen input/output forms, all per a spreadsheet typed in by
the company's receptionist. Took less than a day, from receiving the
receptionist's spreadsheet of the forms she wanted filled out over the web, to
deployment and testing.

Kind of begs credibility. The company's owner wasn't complaining though.

If you have never used Expresso it is a bit like old dBase or Microsoft Access
(gag) for J2EE, in that it does so much for you without any coding, table access,
security, many optional interfaces, etc etc. Unlike these, however, it is all
pure source code sitting on your box for you to use or not use, or customize,
each feature as you wish. Still, it is a hard pill to swallow for those who
insist on authoring every line of code in their entire web application. We just
seem to prefer the collaboration/components approach to doing things. Oh well.
Much of it is Apache code, but there are cool things that only Expresso has, as
well.

Whatever you do, if you decide to test out Expresso, don't make the mistake of
integrating it into your app server for the initial test. Download the complete
version that installs with it's own Tomcat, in a separate folder. That goes up in
10 minutes and won't interfere with your other J2EE work. That way, you can check
it out without having to configure anything, and if you like it, integrate al or
part of it into your app server and/or database after that. This will save you
much heartache, and allow you to make a reasoned decision based on what it does,
rather than based on whether or not you had time to configure all the initial
parameters.

webAppWriter is not opensourced yet, and won't be until I find more work. Until
then, it serves as a magnet  and embellishment to my otherwise unimpressive Java
resume.



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