"Robert J. Sanford, Jr." wrote: > is there a beta of webappwriter that we can download now that > expresso4 has been officially released?
webAppWriter for Struts/Expresso4.0 is currently functioning and serving up Expresso applications (a struts implementation with many other features) at http://webAppWriter.com ...HOWEVER...it is still an early release, the documentation and 30 or so sample applications are still stuck at Expresso 3.11 level (no struts) and other features are not yet tested. It will probably be Dec 1st before these are up to date. It will not be formally announced until then, but it will still whoop out a pretty amazing meg or two worth of jsps, controllers, etc for you to use right now, and I have installed entire secured custom web apps for a customer here in Dallas with a couple dozen input/output forms, all per a spreadsheet typed in by the company's receptionist. Took less than a day, from receiving the receptionist's spreadsheet of the forms she wanted filled out over the web, to deployment and testing. Kind of begs credibility. The company's owner wasn't complaining though. If you have never used Expresso it is a bit like old dBase or Microsoft Access (gag) for J2EE, in that it does so much for you without any coding, table access, security, many optional interfaces, etc etc. Unlike these, however, it is all pure source code sitting on your box for you to use or not use, or customize, each feature as you wish. Still, it is a hard pill to swallow for those who insist on authoring every line of code in their entire web application. We just seem to prefer the collaboration/components approach to doing things. Oh well. Much of it is Apache code, but there are cool things that only Expresso has, as well. Whatever you do, if you decide to test out Expresso, don't make the mistake of integrating it into your app server for the initial test. Download the complete version that installs with it's own Tomcat, in a separate folder. That goes up in 10 minutes and won't interfere with your other J2EE work. That way, you can check it out without having to configure anything, and if you like it, integrate al or part of it into your app server and/or database after that. This will save you much heartache, and allow you to make a reasoned decision based on what it does, rather than based on whether or not you had time to configure all the initial parameters. webAppWriter is not opensourced yet, and won't be until I find more work. Until then, it serves as a magnet and embellishment to my otherwise unimpressive Java resume. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

