If the collection is truly null, then <logic:present> will be false so you won't get into the tag body. To see if the collection is just an empty collection:
Inside your <logic:present> you can use a combo of tags from the bean and logic taglibs: <bean:size id="mySize" name="myArray"/> <logic:equal name="mySize" value="0"> No records. </logic:equal> <logic:notEqual name="mySize" value="0"> <bean:write name="mySize"/> record(s) </logic:notEqual> And you don't have to do the <bean:define> since most of the tags will be able to find the collection in whichever scope it is in. In my sample program that I wrote to test this information, I created a List and shoved it into the request. I never mentioned which scope it is in, though you can specify. Joey -- Sent via jApache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

