I'm also very interested in using Expresso DBObjects in combination with
Struts. Could you please explain a little bit more...
Especially the initialization process which is special to Expresso and its
DBMaint/DBTool servlets.

Thanks a lot
Ingo


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Subject: Re: Advice needed on Stuts versus Struts/Expresso


of course!

Francisco Hernandez wrote:

> is it possible to use DBObjects and not use other parts of expresso such
as
> Jobs, Controllers, etc?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Pilgrim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:35 AM
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>
> >
> > Yes you can because you access input, output, block in the JSP
> > using the custom tags. Because an expresso controller writes a
controller
> > response object to the request scope. The input value can also read back
a
> > controller requests.
> >
> > But I do not why you cannot reuse old ActionForm that you have already
> written,
> > though. The expresso controller does not expose the action form bean
> > as you and I know in the "actionPerformed" method. On the otherhand
> > you gain automatically action command dispatch handling.
> > It was / is issue for the lead developer. The bone of contention
> > being transplanting an old Struts example into an Expresso one. It
should
> > be made easier or as easy as possible. I would Expresso 4.0 is still
new,
> > and these issues dont get played until someone try to build
> > an application with the intention of going __live__.
> >
> > 0.02P
> >
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> > From: "Francisco Hernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 10/01/2002
> 10:05 PST
> >
> > Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
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> > cc:
> > Subject:  Re: Advice needed on Stuts versus Struts/Expresso
> >
> >
> > what do you use instead of ActionForm when using expresso/struts?
> >
> > when doing expresso/struts do you still use Input/Output/Block/etc
> objects?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Pilgrim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: Advice needed on Stuts versus Struts/Expresso
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Expresso helpsa lot if you have been building action command mapping
> > > in every single Action that you have written.
> > >
> > > String action = form.getAction()
> > > if ( action.equalsIgnoreCase("prompt")) {
> > >     ...
> > >     return mapping.findFrward("prompt);
> > > }
> > > else if ( action.equalsIgnoreCase("add")) {
> > >     ...
> > >     return mapping.findFrward("add");
> > > }
> > > else if ( action.equalsIgnoreCase("remove")) {
> > >     ...
> > >     return mapping.findFrward("remove");
> > > }
> > >
> > > The ActionForm bean is redundant because Expresso
> > > has its own controller element architecture. The powerful
> > > feature to use Expresso would be the ease-of-use of its
> > > database objects, especially if you work database-driven
> > > applications. It is missing communication with store procedures
> > > though.
> > >
> > > HTH
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> > > cc:
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've gotten a full app to work with Struts and have a good
understanding
> > > of how things are supposed to be done and work.
> > >
> > > Now I am looking at possibly using Expresso to speed development.
> > >
> > > In anyone's experience what would I lose by moving to Expresso.  I can
> > > see how it would speed development, but do I lose anything that struts
> > > gives me?  Is there anything that I would come across that I could not
> > > do with Expresso that I could do with Struts?
> > >
> > > I've read all the JCorporate docs on the struts integration and such,
> > > but would like to draw on the experience of those more, well
> > > experienced.
> > >
> > > I guess I am at the point where I understand Struts so I am hesitant
to
> > > move on to something else if I will just be coming back to struts
later.
> > >
> > > My needs rotate mostly around rapid development of applications.
> > >
> > > Thanks much for this information and all the previous help in getting
me
> > > going with struts.
> > >
> > > PS. For anyone starting with struts, get Ted Husted's struts-catalog
and
> > > read it once a day while you are learning struts.  In the beginning
you
> > > may not understand it, but as the days go on, more and more will help
> > > you out.  (Thanks Ted)
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill Chmura
> > > Ensign-Bickford Industries, Inc.
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