Me too. I'll just keep learning it the slow hard way!

Simon

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:21 AM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: Re: Struts Fast Track (my 2 pennies worth)
>
>
>Thanks, fellas.  I just cancelled my order.
>
>Mark
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Nathan Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:55 AM
>Subject: RE: Struts Fast Track (my 2 pennies worth)
>
>
>> After seeing some of the reviews for this book, I'm very 
>glad that they
>> copied my credit card number down wrong.  I don't have the 
>book, and I'm
>> sure I can find another way to spend the money.
>>
>> Nathan Anderson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andy Noble [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 2:01 PM
>> To: Struts Users Mailing List
>> Subject: Struts Fast Track (my 2 pennies worth)
>>
>>
>> Having finally received my copy, which was labelled 'beta 
>edition' (??!)
>> I've come to some very quick conclusions. I've been using 
>Struts for about
>6
>> months now, together with Struts Validation, Struts Layout, 
>Struts Menu,
>> Declarative Exceptions, Struts Security, PostgreSQL, Poolman, log4j,
>junit,
>> ORO, javascript, CVS, Tomcat, Forte (netbeans) and I had a 
>go with Tiles
>but
>> decided i didn't want to use it and more recently looked at 
>the Display
>> taglib.
>>
>> With all this stuff spinning around in my head (plus my 
>regular Oracle
>Apps
>> & DB stuff I do for a living) I was hoping for a book that 
>takes you step
>by
>> step through each portion of Struts, with detailed worked 
>examples, along
>> with tips and tricks; this would help me quickly 'relearn' 
>so I didn't
>have
>> to rely too heavily on my memory. I was disappointed because this is
>> *definitely not* what this book is about. It is based around 
>'lab' work
>and
>> you are expected to figure the detail out on your own. This 
>is fine for
>> beginners, but I've spent the last 6 months doing just that 
>without this
>> book. The layout and lack of detailed content makes this 
>book look ideal
>for
>> an instructor lead course, but not really self teaching and *not*
>reference.
>> There are 27 chapters in about 250 pages (thats less than 10 
>pages per
>> chapter on average), and in that there are quite a few blank 
>pages, full
>> page screen shots and very large margins on the A5 paper it 
>is printed on.
>>
>> My conclusion is that the documentation that comes with 
>Struts and all its
>> add ons is probably the best source of information to date. Waste of
>money?
>> Not totally, but at $70 + $20 P&P to UK not value for money. Maybe it
>should
>> be a $30 PDF download... that would be better I think, as $90 hurts!
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Robert D. Morse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 4:48 PM
>> Subject: RE: Vik's book on Struts (basebeans book)
>>
>>
>> > Don't waste your money.  Get "Professional JSP Site Design"  ISBN:
>> > 1861005512
>> >
>> > It is *significantly* better.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 7:29 AM
>> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
>> > Subject: Re: Vik's book on Struts (basebeans book)
>> >
>> >
>> > $60 is quite a piece of change to pay for a book that's already
>outdated!!
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>>
>>
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