I agree with you T. that using an IDE to set breakpoints, step and watch
variables is the preferred method for debugging.

I have used Struts in Visual Age for Java 4.0 for a while now and I have
saved SO MUCH TIME in debugging. I have been able to debug and step right
through the Struts source, and errors which would have taken hours to find,
have taken me minutes. I just can't stress enough how important an IDE can
be for a developer. You can save yourself and the company you work for a lot
of time and money by being more productive and getting the work out a lot
faster by using these tools.

I believe that a chapter in the struts book about debugging with an IDE
would be a great way to teach people about how much more productive they can
be by using these tools, while at the same time making the book more
marketable.

JDA

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-----Original Message-----
From: Thinh Doan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:34 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: OReilly Struts book


Well if you have to add "log" statements in the code to trace & debug, I'd
call the old Fortran method.  The new way would be able to use the IDE to
step, use breakpoints, and display variables etc...  Any tools that can
provide these facilities would be of great help in general. If you can just
answer "How to debug Struts apps?" in a few pages or so, that'd be helpful.

T.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Cavaness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 7:31 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: OReilly Struts book


Thanks for the input. I'm doing the 1.0/1.1 dependent chapters last. That
will give me time to see when it comes out and how I'm going to cover it.
Something on performance is a must. I'm not sure if it's a complete chapter
or whether it can fold into another one. Chapter 18 deals mostly with
logging and specifically integrating log4j into your web apps. Although
logging and testing are somewhat related, I think they would deserve
seperate coverage. I'll give the testing methodology some thought. Were you
thinking something like JUnit/JTest, that sort of thing? The development
environment idea is interesting, although I'm not sure that I could give it
adequate coverage. OReilly books tend to be a little smaller than something
like Que. It's going to be so fat as is...

My idea for appendix A was that it would be similar to the JavaDocs. All of
the classes/interfaces with public methods. That sort of thing.

Thanks again for the input,
Chuck

At 04:45 PM 1/27/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Very good TOC, Chuck!  Personally, I'd like more focus on Struts 1.1 (since
>I've been using 1.0 for a while now) and EJB. Also, a chapter on
development
>environment, like JDeveloper, JBuilder, Forte, etc. w/ Struts, brief
>performance analysis on using Struts w/ Tomcat, JRun, WebLogic, WebSphere
>etc... would be great.  Finally a chapter on testing methodology  with apps
>using Struts would be a bonus (or is it chapter 18?).
>
>Thanks,
>
>Thinh
>
>PS: BTW, is Appendix A organized like a Struts reference guide?


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