Perhaps this discussion is better suited for another mailing list, but in an attempt 
to bring it to closure...

Java doesn't expose its pointers for manipulation, but its object references can be 
considered pointers, if you like.

Yes, Java is a "pass-by-value" language on the surface, but it uses 
"pass-by-reference" when passing objects (not primitives) around.  Otherwise, it would 
need to perform expensive "deep-cloning" of objects before passing objects as 
parameters.  I like to think of Java as doing "pass-reference-by-value" when objects 
are involved.

Now I notice that the original message was posted to the J2EE mailing list too.  
Perhaps I should have left it to those folks to address.  After all, we already 
receive a plethora of messages from this list each day.

HTH

Jim Bell

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Gibbons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 9:02 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Java Trivia



Java doesn't have pointers!  Just mudying the waters, or was it serious?  If so sorry.

Think of it as chucking water over someone, as opposed to passing them a cup of water. 
 Thats pretty similar.

or, um, having someone talk to you, rather than pass you a piece of paper. hmmm.

J,


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From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 01/02/2002 08:48 EST

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Obviously, the first is passed by value, but the second?  We know p will
reference the same object it referenced before the method invocation - the
memory location it points to is the same.  Because p will always point to
the same memory location, is it not also passed by value?

;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Mikkel Bruun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 8:44 AM

 Ehh...

primitives vs ojbects???

by value or by ref...

whats the point??

-----Original Message-----
From: Galbreath, Mark
To: Struts (E-mail); J2ee (E-mail)

What's the difference between

int i = 3;
someMethod( i);

and

Point p = new Point( 3, 3);
someOtherMethod( p);

?

Mark

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