i believe that if you are using jboss as an app-server, you can shut off 
the ejb service and still have security and transaction management (not to 
mention, jndi, web application support, mail services, logging services, 
etc. etc.).

my .2 added to your .2

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:56:10 -0800, Carl Sziebert wrote:

>Just a question for those of you who knock EJBs... How is it that you
>plan to provide transaction management and security within your
>applications?  Going straight to the database won't provide that for
>you.  This whole debate makes me wonder how many people really
>understand Java and quality application design.  I suggest that anyone
>with questions get themselves a copy of Pro JSP Site Design by Wrox.  It
>might help.
>
>This debate has the potential to go on for a while...  Sorry, but I just
>had to add my 2 cents.
>




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