Rajesh,

That sounds interesting.  I started looking at Castor also, but now I'm
looking more into Simper.  Let me know how it goes maybe we can share notes.

-john

-----Original Message-----
From: rajesh kalluri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 11:32 AM
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Subject: Re: Nesting Extension and persistance strategy--castor any one?


Hi All,

I am not the expert in the field of designing OO persistence mechanisms.

I am a fan of nested beans and also i have been playing with castor lately.

So am thinking if we can map our monkey object schema to a db schema (I can
hear a lot of thats easy). Then it should be a snap to marshall/unmarshall
monkey beans  (nested in general) into XML files/ data base tables.

I would start playing with it as soon as i have time.


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From: "Arron Bates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Nesting Extension and persistance strategy


> >
> >
> > I like beans managing dirty state becuause I could possibly have one
> > method
> > that can handle several different structures if it's designed right.
> >
> > Maybe this:
> >
> > Have all DataBeans implement an interface lets day DirtyInterface that
> > defines
> > 2 methods:
> >
> > public String getDirtyAttribute() and
> > public void callJDBC(String dirtyAttribute)
> >
> > the dirtyAttribute class member could be one of several values:
> >
> > insert
> > update
> > delete
> > (select)
> >
> > callJDBCbean(String dirtyAttribute) would call a JDBCbean
> > corresponding to
> > the databean,
> > not sure how to define this, maybe in a way similar to the mapping of
> > Actions?
> >
> > So then in the Action associated with the ActionForm we could pass the
> > ActionForm into a Method that will call getDirtyAttribute and
> > callJDBCbean
> > for each bean that is nested within the ActionForm.
> >
> > Having trouble thinking of way to iterate through the beans, but I think
> > it's possible.
> >
>
> I think that to get it more in line with the stupid-model-paradigm (SMP?
> :) your beans could manage their dirty state, but the actual persistence
> management be handled by a separate object, that takes the bean types in
> overloaded methods.
> eg:
> persistDirtyBean(Organisation org) {...}
> persistDirtyBean(Team team) {...}
> persistDirtyBean(Investor investor) {...}
> persistDirtyBean(Portfolio portfolio) {...}
> persistDirtyBean(Stock stock) {...}
>
> Then you could just throw whatever bean at it you needed. The class
> itself could even iterate the tree itself, in that the Organisation
> version of the PersistDirtyBean would get Team objects, and then from
> this method could call the Team persist method for whatever team. Or you
> can, in just as correct a manner, use it ad-hoc just throwing whatever
> object. Means that the persist methods aren't living with their related
> Object, so some OO guru may say it's not defending the faith.
>
> There's just so many ways you can attack this. But I think that you're
> in the right frame of mind to take it on at least. :)
>
> >>> How complex are the types/structure of your hierarchy?...
> >>>
> > Pretty simple.  Actually it almost maps exactly to your example
> >
> > Organization
> > Team
> > Investor
> > Portfolio
> > Stock
> >
>
> Simple until you have to persist the thing. :)
> My definition of simple is when making a table you have a bean with a
> collection of one type of object, that can be retrieved and updated with
> one query.
>
> Oh, I miss those days when people thought that just seeing data was
> special...
> ...and that it was on the "Information Super-Highway"... there's a term
> that brings on flash-backs.
>
>
> Arron.
>
>
>
>
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