:) ok, try going to sourceforge then ! Can you get there ? :)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/chiki Ghoot > -----Original Message----- > From: Ronald Haring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 06 March 2002 13:43 > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > Subject: RE: Struts Community Opportunity > > > lol, > I will give it a try, but I cant connect to your site from > work, since port > 8080 is blocked (I think that is the problem, since I see a > redirect in my > status bar to port 8080, followed by a 404 error) > > Gr > Ronald > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Emaho, Ghoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:39 PM > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > Subject: RE: Struts Community Opportunity > > > > > > Ronald, > > > > Sorry about that ! All you need to do if you are interested > > is download the WAR and run under Tomcat. Check the site for > > details, but it shouldnt take you more than 10 minutes to > > have it running locally. > > > > Let me know if you give it a try, > > > > Cheers > > > > Ghoot > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ronald Haring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: 06 March 2002 13:35 > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > > > Subject: RE: Struts Community Opportunity > > > > > > > > > sounds like a good plan, unfortunately our firewall doesnt > > allow me to > > > connect to port 8080 so I have never been able so far to > > look at your > > > application Ghoot > > > > > > Gr > > > Ronald > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Emaho, Ghoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:08 PM > > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > > > Subject: Struts Community Opportunity > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all > > > > > > > > I think there is an opportunity here, particularly with the > > > > imminent 1.1 release. I imagine there are going to be a whole > > > > bunch of new questions when 1.1 is released. There IS a lot > > > > of documentation for Struts. The work Ted and others have > > > > done is great. But perhaps a new perspective on the docs > > > > (particularly for newbies) might be prudent. > > > > > > > > I know from my own experience that how these docs are > > > > organised and presented can have a big effect on their > > > > usefuleness. Those of us who've been using Struts for a > > > > longest can see how the user base has increased dramatically, > > > > and I can only see this increasing with the release of 1.1. > > > > Perhaps now is a good time to consider possible > > > > changes/refactoring of the docs that would help inform new > > > > users and 'alleviate' some of the burden on the list. > > > > > > > > I know the docs as is are good, but thats easy for us to say > > > > when we know, pretty much, how it works and hangs together :) > > > > > > > > I'd be happy to offer some suggestions and effort in this > > > > regard - and I'm sure others would too. I have experience in > > > > organising this type of content on a large scale - especially > > > > for 'newbies', so maybe I have a different perspective. > > > > > > > > I'm not intending to step on anyones toes ! Any new work > > > > would obviously build upon the existing site and Ted's > great site. > > > > > > > > Now for a shameless plug....Chiki (http://chiki.emaho.org) is > > > > being developed by myself and others, and this is one of the > > > > ways it can be used, for community building and content > > > > management. Perhaps somewhere down the line we could have a > > > > Struts Community site powered by Chiki, with all the relevant > > > > resources. As it is based upon Wiki this content can be > > > > dynamically updated and managed, and there is suitable access > > > > control provided ! (well in a release coming out very soon) > > > > Think 'The Server Side' devoted to Struts. It would > > > > dramatically reduce the load on the mailing list, as well as > > > > serving as a focal point for all things Struts. I imagine > > > > there would be a group of administrators obviously, but it > > > > would also allow others to contribute too, thereby lightening > > > > the load on everyone helping with the list. I could go on and > > > > on about the benefits ! > > > > > > > > I'm not saying Chiki is the only answer, but I'm just > > > > volunteering something that seems a great fit for the > > > > 'problem'. In the next 4-6 weeks Chiki will be ready for > > such usage. > > > > > > > > I'd love to see a Struts community using chiki (since it's > > > > built on Struts), taking the whole Struts experience to a new > > > > level, one which can not only cope with increased user base, > > > > but would positively thrive on it. > > > > > > > > Even if people dont think this is the way to go, then I'd > > > > still be happy to offer advise perspective and effort re the > > > > Documentation. > > > > > > > > Please let me know what you all think > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Ghoot > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: 06 March 2002 12:43 > > > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > > > > > Subject: RE: Newbie Struts and Jbuilder6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not "vent anger" at newbies though I may be stern at > > > > > times, and I, too, > > > > > remember what it is like learning something new...because I > > > > > do it everyday. > > > > > I appreciate your generosity but I go by the old adage, "Give > > > > > a man a fish > > > > > and he'll not be hungry today; teach him to fish and he'll > > > > > never be hungry." > > > > > Sometimes your generosity works to the detriment of those you > > > > > wish to help. > > > > > And, as I said, it encourages more laziness on a list that is > > > > > already way > > > > > too busy handling inane queries. > > > > > > > > > > No flame war - have a beer! > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Emaho, Ghoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > While I understand your frustration, I dont share it ! > > > > > > > > > > I was happy to help. > > > > > > > > > > You seem to vent a lot of frustration at newbie users. So > > > > > they havent read > > > > > all the docs - so what ! I remember what its like to be a > > > > > beginner and come > > > > > up against people with your attitude. Chill out and stop > > > > > giving them such a > > > > > hard time. You can still 'point them at the docs' in a > > > > > friendly manner. > > > > > > > > > > You act as though this list is your personal property > > > > > sometimes ! Newbies > > > > > are welcome, and if they need reminding 100 times about the > > > > > doc then fine. > > > > > Bear in mind that for a newcomer, the documentation can be > > > > > confusing and > > > > > misleading. While everyone who has contributed has done a > > > > > good job, it can > > > > > be daunting for a complete newcomer. I dont think this is the > > > > > place for you > > > > > to vent your anger at them. > > > > > > > > > > And I hope you can see the humour in my response :) I > > > know it can be > > > > > frustrating seeing the same q's again and again, but you > > > > dont HAVE to > > > > > respond every time someone asks a dumb question, do you ? > > > > > > > > > > I'm not looking for a flame war, but sometimes you are just > > > > > too rude. Take > > > > > it somewhere else - off this list ! > > > > > > > > > > Hope you take this in the spirit it is intended > > > > > > > > > > Take care > > > > > > > > > > Ghoot > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: 06 March 2002 12:13 > > > > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > > > > > > Subject: RE: Newbie Struts and Jbuilder6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You going to spoon-feed him, too? This integration is > > > > > > clearly explained in > > > > > > the documentation; the guy didn't even bother to look. By > > > > > > answering such > > > > > > lame questions you encourage more lame questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Emaho, Ghoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:09 AM > > > > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > > > > > Subject: RE: Newbie Struts and Jbuilder6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Goto 'Tools | Configure Libraries' menu, add new entry, and > > > > > > select your > > > > > > Struts.jar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then goto 'Project | Project Properties' menu select > > > the 'required > > > > > > libraries' tab, select add and then choose your newly > > > > added struts. > > > > > > > > > > > > This then enables struts within your project. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps > > > > > > > > > > > > Ghoot > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Sam Lai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Sent: 06 March 2002 00:07 > > > > > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > > > > > > Subject: Newbie Struts and Jbuilder6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone show me how to integrate struts in Jbuilder6? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > SAM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOTICE > > > > > > > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may > > > > > > > contain copyright material of Macquarie Bank or third > > > > > > > parties. 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