funny that James Gosling, or one of the gods at sun made a comment about how ide's were useless and how all good developers used emacs.
i probably took him out of context, but I remember that he got into a lot of trouble over it... i also think that the general gist of the message was as I mentioned (or maybe it was that ides were built for bad developers?). hopefully I got the right person, it may have been Bill Joy, but anyways it was someone I consider famous... interesting comment though.... i still use ide's as long as I have the resources... i don't consider myself to be the most productive developer and I'm not "old-school" whatever gets the job done. sandeep --- "Schneider, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm enjoying the 'my tool is better than your tool' > rant. > > Your talk of assembly line workers reminds me of > analogies I've read in > engineering books. Many have references to the > industrial revolution and > how productivity and efficiency skyrocketed with the > use of assembly lines. > But I guess that's only true for uninteresting > factory crap. > > e. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Galbreath, Mark > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:24 PM > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > > Subject: RE: IDE for EJB2.0 development > > > > > > A more appropriate analogy would be hand-made > furniture vs. > > the crap you buy > > from a factory. And carpenters are much more > interesting people than > > assembly-line workers. (hint-hint) > > > > Mark > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James Mitchell > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:15 PM > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > Subject: RE: IDE for EJB2.0 development > > > > > > No no, I have to agree with Mark. Real > programmers use text > > editors just > > like "Real" construction workers use pitch forks > and shovels > > and not those > > fancy bull dozers and front-end loaders. > > > > What happened to the good-ole days where it took a > year and > > half to build a > > house!!! > > > > JM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Chappell, Simon P > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:35 PM > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > > Subject: RE: IDE for EJB2.0 development > > > > > > > > > I have to go there .... even if it isn't Friday! > :-) > > > > > > REAL programmers use vi. EMACS is an operating > system trying to > > > pass itself off as a text editor (Mmmmm ... LISP > as your > > > scripting language!). > > > > > > As an aside, even a relevent aside, I have been > tinkering with > > > jEdit (http://www.jedit.org) and have found it > to be a very good > > > general text editor. It has a growing collection > of plugins that > > > utilise such goodies as syntax highlighting, ant > and refactoring > > > support. Check it out! > > > > > > Simon > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Simon P. Chappell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Java Programming Specialist > www.landsend.com > > > Lands' End, Inc. > (608) 935-4526 > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Galbreath, Mark > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 11:53 AM > > > >To: 'A mailing list for Java(tm) 2 Platform, > Enterprise Edition' > > > >Cc: Struts (E-mail); Bartles, Todd; Bronner, > Bryon; Harter, David; > > > >Kerstetter, Shawn; Mannam, Ram; Pakiru, > Vamshidhar; Tony > > (E-mail); Veni > > > >(E-mail) > > > >Subject: RE: IDE for EJB2.0 development > > > > > > > > > > > >Real programmers use EMACS or VI. 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