Ok, so I can move my data-source back into struts and acquire a reference to
it by doing ... hrm ... I'll look it up =)

Thanks - sorry for the ... commotion!

Eddie


----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:49 PM
Subject: RE: Struts Connection Pool Maturity - Ted - you out there?


> In the particular case of the Espresso connection pool, I didn't know
> about it at the time.  In the particular case of Poolman, it has (well,
> now it is really "had") a single developer instead of a community, and an
> LGPL license to boot.  (Talk to RMS about why he says the Apache license
> is evil -- I'm not interested in getting involved in that discussion.)
>
> Feel free to integrate Struts into anything you like -- that is the
> fundamental value proposition of the Apache License.  For the stuff
> packaged *inside* Struts, I'm personally more comfortable with Apache
> based code, where I know the other developers and the support culture
> around it.
>
> For outside code, given license compatibility and a willingness of others
> to support it (to *my* quality standards, since Struts is pretty closely
> associated with *my* name :-), I'm OK with it, but I'd usually rather just
> leave it out and let others provide integrated packages.  (FWIW, in
> Struts 1.1 the GenericDataSource class is a wrapper around the
commons-dbcp
> connection pool, which is also going to be used in Tomcat 4.1).
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Sandra Cann wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:04:33 -0400
> > From: Sandra Cann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: Struts Connection Pool Maturity - Ted - you out there?
> >
> > snip
> > > I've been using Poolman just fine, but would like to switch to
> > > the struts pool if it is at a maturity-level that would make that
> > > possible.
> >
> > Perhaps I misunderstanding something here? I would like to ask why
Struts
> > didn't just incorporate Poolman or Expresso's Connection pooling instead
of
> > developing another?
> >
> > i.e. Expresso's has been around since '96 and is certainly stable! It's
an
> > Apache Style license so the code is certainly open source compatible
with
> > Struts Apache license.
> >
> > This brings up for me a larger question I am not clear on....
> >
> > What is Struts view on building on/integrating/contributing with third
party
> > open source projects and not reinventing wheels?
> >
> > With the shoe on the other foot we support other open source projects
> > (including several Apache projects) by building on them and thus have an
> > area in Expresso's CVS for third party libraries which is where Struts
> > resides. This benefits the open source movement by making projects
stronger
> > and increasing mindshare and strengthening their acceptance as open
> > standards. I'm sure you'll agree the Expresso community has contributed
in
> > positive ways to the Struts code and community.
> >
> > I look forward to hearing back.
> >
> > --
> > Sandra Cann
> > http://www.jcorporate.com
> > Open Standards based Java components
> >
> > "Our separation from each other is an optical illusion of
consciousness."
> > (Albert Einstein)
> >
> >
> >
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