Good to know, I have never actually used Ant.

On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 10:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > I also need to integrate this with some parts from an existing PHP site
> > which I'm sure is going to add some complexity to the site. And I don't
> > want to have to erase and rebuild 50 sites everytime I need to fix a
> > little problem. Which with my client happens several times a day.
> 
> Using Ant you could just rebuild and deploy only one site at a time (or
> parts of a site).
> 
> As they say - TIMTOWTDI!
> 
> FWIW -
> Kevn
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> Mike Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 05/14/2002 12:37:30 PM
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> Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
>       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> To:   Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> cc:    (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife)
> Subject:  Re: Multiple sites using one struts application.
> 
> 
> I wanted to do something where a just created the properties for each
> club based on the URL and pass resources and a directory to the jsp
> pages.  I think in my case it would be best on the server to have just
> one set of pages running even if there is a bit more overhead processing
> the pages.  This would save on ram usage, which I could then use for
> caching of pages to increase the speed of the site.
> 
> Also this way I can seperate the content/configuration (which I would
> store in a directory stucture for all the clubs) from the logic which
> would be a struts application.
> 
> This was the type of thing that I was doing before except that
> previously I was passing a clubID in the URL. This is no longer an
> option because every club needs to be accessabe from just a standard URL
> without a query string.
> 
> I also need to integrate this with some parts from an existing PHP site
> which I'm sure is going to add some complexity to the site. And I don't
> want to have to erase and rebuild 50 sites everytime I need to fix a
> little problem. Which with my client happens several times a day.
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> mike
> 
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> On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 06:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >
> >
> > You're not reading this wrong. I'm advocating creating 50 webapps (and 50
> > war files) if you have 50 sites.
> >
> > But I've always felt that disk space and server memory are cheap compared
> > to developer time. CPU requirements would likely be the same with either
> > approach.
> >
> > Don't run from ghosts - that is, don't spend a lot of effort programming
> > around hardware limitations that don't exist or that can be eliminated by
> a
> > few hundred dollars in parts. Developer time is the critical resource -
> not
> > hardware.
> >
> > I believe that this approach (driving the site customization at
> build-time
> > versus run-time) will give you a simpler codebase that's likely to be
> > eaiser (i.e. faster) to develop.
> >
> > However, if you want to drive the customization at run-time, you could do
> > so with a similar approach:
> >
> >  - Still drive every thing that is site-specific from properties.
> >  - Create a cache of Properties objects (or ResourceBundles) in a Hashmap
> > that gets loaded at start-up (and potentially allow for dynamic reload
> > without restarting the server). These Properties objects would contain
> all
> > site-specific values.
> >  -  To build the View (i.e. jsp) for each request retrieve the Properties
> > object containing the propery values for that site based on some lookup
> > driven by the url/uri requested.
> >  - You could create a <SetSiteProperties> tag that attached the
> Properties
> > object to the Request with some known attribute name - this type of
> > behavior occurs throughout Struts so you could find examples somewhere in
> > the code.
> >  - Then the html output is customized by the Properties.
> >
> > Gosh - now that I look at this, it doesn't look that hard either....
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 05/13/2002 07:07:07 PM
> >
> > Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
> >       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > To:   Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > cc:    (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife)
> > Subject:  Re: Multiple sites using one struts application.
> >
> >
> > Would this then build me an application for each site?  So it would copy
> > the files over for each site.  I don't know that this is viable because
> > I have 50 or so sites that would be running on one server.  What I would
> > like is just one set of files running at a time and not 50 so that I
> > could save on server resources.  Or am I reading this wrong.
> >
> > thanks
> > mike
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2002-05-13 at 15:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I believe this is a build/deploy question as much as a Struts question.
> > But
> > > here goes:
> > >
> > > 1. Drive virtually everything from your application.properties file.
> All
> > > these properties are available to your Action classes. For example,
> > define
> > > the path to your images directory there, the club name, the jdbc url,
> > etc.)
> > >
> > > 2. Create each site as it's own web app - but keep everything in a
> SINGLE
> > > SOURCE CONTROL REPOSITORY version. You will create specific sites ONLY
> AT
> > > BUILD TIME. Again - only one version exists in source control. Call
> this
> > > The Template.
> > >
> > >      This is critical. No site-specific code or properties get checked
> in
> > > with The Template. Everything is driven from the application.properties
> > > file.
> > >
> > > 3. Define the values in this application.properties file using
> "tokens",
> > > not actual values. For example:
> > >
> > >      in The Template application.properties for Struts:
> > >
> > >      club.name=CLUB_NAME
> > >      path.to.images=IMAGE_PATH
> > >      site.jdbc.url=JDBC_URL
> > >
> > >      - etc. -
> > >
> > > 4. Then, for each actual site, create a seperate "properties" file
> > > containing the specific values for that site. For example:
> > >
> > >      in "club1.properties"
> > >
> > >      club.name=Fred's Club
> > >      path.to.images=/fredimages/images
> > >      site.jdbc.url="jdbc:oracle:thin:@123.45.67.89:1521:orcl"
> > >
> > >      - etc. -
> > >
> > > 5. At build time, use Ant's "<replace>" target to replace the "tokens"
> in
> > > the struts application.properties file with the site-specific values
> from
> > > the site-specific properties files. That is:
> > >
> > >
> > >           <replace
> > >               file="path/to/struts/application.properties"
> > >               propertyFile="path/to/specific/club.properties" >
> > >             <replacefilter
> > >               token="CLUB_NAME"
> > >               property="club.name"/>
> > >             <replacefilter
> > >               token="IMAGE_PATH"
> > >               property="path.to.images"/>
> > >             <replacefilter
> > >               token="JDBC_URL"
> > >               property="site.jdbc.url"/>
> > >           </replace>
> > >
> > >
> > >      See details on the Ant <replace> tag at:
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/manual/CoreTasks/replace.html
> > >
> > > 6. Create a different ant target to build each site. And maybe a
> > "build-all" to build all the sites.
> > >
> > >      There's a bit of work here getting things organized. But this will
> > allow you to generate sites from The Template as a build/configuration
> > process
> > >  - not as a development issue.
> > >
> > > Summary:
> > >
> > > 1.   Drive EVERYTHING site specific from the application.properties
> file
> > > 2.   Use tokens in the application.properties file instead of actual
> > values
> > > 3.   Create the actual sites at build/deploy time using Ant and the
> > <replace> target.
> > >
> > > This will work!
> > >
> > >
> > > FWIW -
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 05/13/2002 04:51:36 PM
> > >
> > > Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
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> > > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > cc:    (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife)
> > > Subject:  Multiple sites using one struts application.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > I'm building a site for a group of clubs.  All the sites will have the
> > > same set of pages and actions.
> > >
> > > For instance:
> > >
> > > http://clubsites/club1/index.jsp
> > > http://clubsites/club2/index.jsp
> > > http://clubsites/club3/index.jsp
> > > http://anothersite/club4/index.jsp
> > >
> > > All of these sites would basically be the same in terms of layout and
> > > functionality except that the would have different images.  They may
> > > also connect to seperate database. How can I set up a site like this so
> > > that I can use the same pages for all of the clubs but pass different
> > > configurations so that I can render the pages with their own images.
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > mike
> > >
> > >
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