Thanks Eric,

I will have it a look. Looks like interesting.

However, a question more, for you or whoever. I would like to hear someone 
agreeing my suspicions that for most of O/R mapping frameworks, we need to 
create the object classes that map database tables by compiling code or 
using ant tasks. None (do not know Cayenne yet), is able to do for itself.

I did get any feedback sharing my point and I wonder if I am missing 
something.

Regards and thanks anyway,

Adolfo



>From: "Schneider, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Object Relational Bridge is great ? A Basic Problem
>Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 06:55:44 -0600
>
>Adolfo,
>
>Have a look at this....maybe it better suits your needs.  It's in alpha, 
>but
>don't let that fool you.  It's more mature than most OR tools I've looked
>at.
>
>http://objectstyle.org/cayenne
>
>Eric
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adolfo Miguelez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 5:50 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Object Relational Bridge is great ? A Basic Problem
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > as a newbie in O/R mapping tools, APIs and frameworks I find
> > the following
> > issue. All of the frameworks that I have browsed lacks from a
> > basic problem:
> > The classes that maps the corresponding tables in the
> > database must be
> > manually generated, either by hand (e.g. OJB) or by building
> > the code (e.g.
> > Jakarta Torque).
> >
> > This becomes a pain since it difficults to make an
> > application that could
> > "learn" for itself a data model and create its own classes.
> > No way, AFAIK,
> > for implementing general mechanism.
> >
> > I know about BCEL project, which is able to compile classes
> > in runtime, and
> > it could be really helpful to integrate with the previous
> > ones and get
> > automathic mechanims, but I do not any framework that take
> > advantage of
> > BCEL.
> >
> > The only way that I have seen to do something similar, is the
> > mini-project
> > SIMPER (Struts resources page), which is able to work out dynabeans
> > (actually they are hashmaps in their guts), following a
> > database schema, for
> > it self. For me it has the problem that uses Servlets 2.3
> > filters and I am
> > working with Servlets 2.2 specs.
> >
> > I just want to request your opinion or knowledge about a
> > framework that can
> > implement itself such a classes, or a framework which classes are not
> > actually classes but hashmaps or something like that.... or
> > even some one
> > taking advantage of BCEL or analogous mechanism. I know is a
> > difficult
> > question, supposing that I am not mixing any concept up.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Adolfo
> >
> > >From: Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: Object Relational Bridge is great !
> > >Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 18:15:45 +0200
> > >
> > >Hi Fabrice,
> > >did you check out JDO? If so, why didn't you prefer it?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >fabrice dewasmes wrote:
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>no problem this time but i'd like to applause chuck
> > Cavaness with both
> > >>hands
> > >>for the public review of his struts book. Chuck, you're
> > clairvoyant :
> > >>using
> > >>Object relational bridge is a great idea. we've hesitated
> > between torque,
> > >>castor, and OJB and it appears that OJB has a really
> > powerful API and
> > >>allows
> > >>all kind of relational mappings (1:1, 1:n, m:n,
> > inheritance, polymorphism,
> > >>...) it saves a lot of time and i think this is many more
> > powerful than
> > >>EJBs.
> > >>
> > >>I definitely recommend this persistence framework to any
> > people beginning
> > >>a
> > >>struts project (or even non struts project)
> > >>
> > >>Fabrice
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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