> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:09 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Struts <--> JSF roadmap
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Eddie Bush wrote:
> 
> > Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 16:59:57 -0500
> > From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Struts <--> JSF roadmap
> >
> > That's a good read :-)  Thanks for the open-office edition ;-)
> >
> 
> StarOffice is the only office productivity software that I (and most
> people at Sun) use, so the .sdd was actually the original 
> version -- the
> .ppt is just StarOffice's "save as" export.  Hope it works 
> right ... all I
> know is StarOffice was able to re-import it successfully through its
> PowerPoint input filter.

The only oddities in the PPT version are the bullets themselves. The 1st
level bullets come out as red dots with "10" in them, and the 2nd level ones
come out as, well, I'm not sure exactly, but it kinda looks like a
decorative Arabic character in red... ;-) It's very pretty, though!

--
Martin Cooper


> 
> > Regards,
> >
> > Eddie
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> >
> > Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
> >
> > >On 6 Sep 2002, Bryan Field-Elliot wrote:
> > >
> > >>Date: 06 Sep 2002 13:02:45 -0600
> > >>From: Bryan Field-Elliot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>Subject: Re: Struts <--> JSF roadmap
> > >>
> > >>Thanks Craig, I'm really looking forward to this... I believe that
> > >>you're the one and only person who can paint a consistent roadmap
> > >>including both JSF and Struts. This is independent of how deeply
> > >>intertwined (if at all) the two frameworks are destined to become.
> > >>
> > >>Are the "things you described at the JavaOne BOF in March" online
> > >>anywhere?
> > >>
> > >Slides from the BOF in PowerPoint or StarOffice formats:
> > >  http://jakarta.apache.org/~craigmcc/StrutsBof.ppt
> > >  http://jakarta.apache.org/~craigmcc/StrutsBof.sdd
> > >
> > >>Thanks,
> > >>Bryan
> > >>
> > >Craig
> > >
> > >>On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 12:45, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
> > >>
> > >>    I will have time to expand on this at length over the 
> weekend ... but the
> > >>    things I described in my JavaOne BOF on Struts 1.1 
> last March look like
> > >>    they're going to come true (which is good news for 
> Struts folks).
> > >>
> > >>    Craig
> > >>
> > >>    On 6 Sep 2002, Bryan Field-Elliot wrote:
> > >>
> > >>    > Date: 06 Sep 2002 12:33:37 -0600
> > >>    > From: Bryan Field-Elliot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>    > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>    > To: Struts-User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>    > Subject: Struts <--> JSF roadmap
> > >>    >
> > >>    > I was wondering if there are others out there who 
> have read the
> > >>    > (preliminary) JSF (Java Server Faces) drafts, 
> tutorials, etc., with
> > >>    > opinions on how they relate to Struts?
> > >>    >
> > >>    > With Craig the spec lead on JSF, and Craig also 
> being a primary mover
> > >>    > (as well as original inventor) of Struts, I am 
> hoping he will come
> > >>    > forward with some real opinions on the matter, such 
> as, where are the
> > >>    > areas of overlap between the two? I believe there 
> may be overlap in
> > >>    > validation area, as well as in the general 
> "controller framework"
> > >>    > mechanism, though I'm not sure yet.
> > >>    >
> > >>    > Might there be anything like a "long-term roadmap" 
> for Struts with some
> > >>    > mention of JSF, and best practices for using the 
> two together?
> > >>    >
> > >>    > Opinions appreciated,
> > >>    >
> > >>    > Bryan
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
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