Hmmmm.. I personally think that open-source software suffers when we treat people impolitely. And please note to all involved that I am talking generally here. I have strongly supported open-source software in some big companies for many years, yet still have managed to get my picture on some fat idiot's "hall of shame" web site, because he thought my question was stupid.
I think you have to give people the benefit of the doubt. They may have dug through mountains of (often incomplete and poorly written) documentation, and just got confused. Their question may well be a cry for help and a "where the hell do I start!!", or even "please - how would you experts do this - what's the BEST way". I often do this - I'm looking for the best practice! Lets be nice out there!!! Howard Miller (VERY off topic) On 21 Sep 2002 at 12:38, Michael Lee wrote: > LOL! Exactly what I mean! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 3:31 PM > Subject: RE: Request for additional link on struts docs[Suggestion] > > > > You mean somewhere like here? > > > > http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/archives.html > > > > -- > > Martin Cooper > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Michael Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 12:16 PM > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > > Subject: Request for additional link on struts docs[Suggestion] > > > > > > > > > This is fantastic. I've happened upon this on some google searches but > > > google is many times behind. > > > Would this be a worthwhile link to have off the struts site? > > > Mike > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 3:01 PM > > > Subject: RE: Struts with Jbuilder 6 > > > > > > > > > > Here ya go: > > > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user%40jakarta.apache.org/ > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Michael Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:53 PM > > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > > > Subject: Re: Struts with Jbuilder 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL!LOL! I can not belive your response to his link. My god... > > > > Anyway.... > > > > I have used struts with Jbuilder 4,6 and now 7. It is a > > > java application, > > > > like any other. The question itself makes no sense. If you > > > mean what good > > > > struts tools are there that integrate with jbuilder (almost > > > any java ide > > > > really) then check out... > > > > http://easystruts.sourceforge.net/ > > > > There are a bunch more on > > > > http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/guis.html > > > > I think this is your problem. You are not doing your > > > homework. When I post > > > a > > > > question here I make sure I have > > > > 1) Read all the jakarta struts docs I can > > > > 2) Read all pertinent jakarta struts javadocs > > > > 3) Look through all pertinent struts examples in war files > > > > 4) Google search > > > > > > > > You apparently not even done step 1. This is what many here find > > > insulting. > > > > Something I would like to see is these emails in searchable > > > form. (I saw > > > an > > > > earlier email with a link) > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 1:12 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Struts with Jbuilder 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tell him so -- don't just hand-off the URL as an answer. > > > > > > > > > > Tom Veldhouse > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 10:32 AM > > > > > Subject: RE: Struts with Jbuilder 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you had actually read the document, Tom, you would > > > know that its > > > main > > > > > > thread is how to do research before asking questions > > > that the asker > > > has > > > > > > obviously done nothing to figure out on his own. If > > > you find that > > > > > > offensive, you've got a screw loose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach him > > > how to fish and > > > > > he'll > > > > > > eat for a lifetime. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Thomas T. Veldhouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:18 AM > > > > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > > > > > Subject: Re: Struts with Jbuilder 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was telling you to ask your question in a "smart" way. In > > > > otherwords, > > > > > he > > > > > > was trying to act as list moderator. I find that more > > > offensive than > > > > some > > > > > > of the things that document addresses. I didn't personally find > > > > anything > > > > > in > > > > > > particular wrong with your question and a simple answer > > > from somebody > > > > > would > > > > > > have sufficed. Try taking a look at EasyStruts from > > > SourceForge. I > > > > have > > > > > > not used it myself, so I can not say how well it does > > > or does not > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Veldhouse > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "BARADAT Benoit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 7:43 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: Struts with Jbuilder 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are you sure ? > > > > > > > I tryed to find the word "Struts" in this page. I > > > didn't found it > > > !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:29 PM > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Struts with Jbuilder 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > > > > > > > <http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: BARADAT Benoit > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 3:10 AM > > > > > > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > > > > > > > Subject: Struts with Jbuilder 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to use Struts with Jbuilder 6. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do I process ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
