I'd like to second what Kevin has said. I have bought and read every book on Struts, in the order that they were published. I got Kick Start this Wednesday. (Sams sent it overnight for $8.). My three favorite books are Chuck's, Ted's and Kick Start. All three are different, have the personalities and interests of the authors, and offer three perspectives on Struts development and best practices. I would be very hard-pressed to choose just one, but since I love tech books that isn't an issue for me. All three are intermediate to advanced texts (for more intro material, look at "Mastering Struts" ). If I had to give one reason for buying Kick Start, I would say "for the excellent chapters on Struts Tags". The other books do not dwell on the Tags, while KickStart has a detailed chapter on each library.
Ron -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 9:37 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCE] Shameless Plug: Struts Kick Start now available for shipping at Amazon As James co-author, let me speak to this. To begin with - I'd like to say that all authors that have put together books on Struts have put a lot of work into it and have all done well. I've read most all the books that are currently available and have to honest - they're all good! No bad words about any of them. Certainly, as well, I'd feel better if someone on the list who has seen the book stepped in to answer this. Better probably for everyone to get an unbiased answer. Kind of hard for me, really, to be unbiased! :-> That being said, we did take specific steps to differentiate: - We include a CD-ROM with Struts, JDK 1.4, mysql, strutstestcase, the struts console, Junit, ant, cactus, Axis, JBoss, etc so all code is included for windows and Linux. - We have working sample code for almost every struts tag. It's designed for cutting and pasting. - We provided working sample apps including code, build scripts and step by step instructions for integration with JBoss for EJB's and Axis for Web Services - We provided coverage of Ant build scripts, JUnit and Cactus testing with struts test case. That's enough I guess to just say that we worked hard to create a good, usable book. We're currently working with a couple of developer sites to arrange publication of more sample chapters.The people at SAMS are doing a great job with the promotions. And again, I've read Chuck's book and really liked it. While I haven't read Ted, et al's book it looks great as well - and Ted has made such a unique contribution to Struts that he's certainly earned a special place. (Ted's publisher Manning has put out some great titles recently including Erik Hatcher's Ant book). If anyone has more specific questions I'd prefer to take them off list unless the person believes their discussion is of value to the wider audience of Struts users. Thanks for asking! Kevin http://www.strutskickstart.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/13/2002 10:10:59 AM Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCE] Shameless Plug: Struts Kick Start now available fo r shipping at Amazon looks like a good buy, but .... how do u feel your book is different or offers something advantageous in comparison to Chuck Cavaness' or Craig's book? -----Original Message----- From: James Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 8:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Shameless Plug: Struts Kick Start now available for shipping at Amazon Well, I may not have gotten my copies yet from the publisher, but you can order "Struts Kick Start" now from Amazon for immediate delivery: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0672324725 Buy one, buy two. They make great stocking stuffers. Use them as door stops. 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