On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, 10:15:16 AM, FM wrote:

PPF> I am in fix with a IDE I have never used before in my life,
PPF> Oracle JDeveloper 9i. Is there anyone out there who give some pointers
PPF> on how to compile and deploy a Struts demo on to an external
PPF> running Tomcat 4.1.18 server on Windows NT 4.0? 

I know this IDE has won awards, but in my, not so humble opinion I
think this IDE is horrible. It's so bloated with stuff and even on a
fast machine it seemed to run slow. But the biggest problem I had with
it was everything seemed like a chore to learn how to do with the
tool. To deploy with it you have to develop your app and then it
provides a way to deploy a war file out to the server. To me it seems
so much more worthwhile to just learn a quick ant script that you
could use with any IDE (or none for that matter). My suggestion is to
not even use JDeveloper. I'll give you another situation that came up
from it... this other guy here isn't being cool and using Struts so he
had a bunch of scriplets on pages which required him to import
java.util stuff at the top of his JSP pages. Well somehow he didn't
have those imports but running in the JDeveloper environment and
JDeveloper didn't care - everything displayed fine in his JDev
environment. (don't ask me how). Problems later, though, when this
person copied up some of the JSPs straight to the server. Of course it
required the imports. As long as he deployed with JDev and the war it
built to oc4j I think everything was fine. But in my opinion, it
wasn't fine since you couldn't give this JSP page to someone else and
have them use it, it seemed to have to be developed within the context
of JDeveloper in order to work.

Also try taking an existing web application that you have and try to
get it set up in JDeveloper. It's a total mess and so non intuitive.
Contrast this with Intellij's IDE or even Netbeans. In those IDEs you
simply say "here is my webapp," "here is my src directory", etc. Never
seemed to work like that in JDeveloper. With Intellij I downloaded the
IDE and was up and doing what I needed to do in no time flat.
JDeveloper on the other hand you spend more time trying to figure out
how to get the tool to do what you want.

Anyway I'm done ranting. Probably many on this list love JDeveloper
and I'm sure it is very powerful once you learn it. I'll stick with
Intellij's IDEA and JEdit and be a happy camper:)

My suggestion use IDEA or even JEdit will do the trick (with less neat
bells and whistles).

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Rick
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