Actually, the case is more impressive than you describe. Struts won out over several custom frameworks that currently exist within ford and have quite a bit of political clout behind them. What won out in the end was that there was no good cost-effective support model for the internal frameworks. Too many resources would have to be spent supporting/updating the alternatives.
--- - Nayan Hajratwala - Chikli Consulting LLC - http://www.chikli.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:59 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Cc: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford I agree here - The typical big company response would've been to build their own custom framework from the ground up. The fact that they chose to start with Struts shows they put a good deal of thought into it and trusted the quality of the work. It's very likely that they had internal projects be successful using Struts and then ramped it up as a standard. I'm sure they did a great deal of testing on it and had some camps pulling to build something custom. There were likely other competing frameworks as well. This is one of the greatest strengths of Open Source - as a large company you can take the app and customize to your internal environment. For example: - You could create abstract 'model' components that standardize they way people throughout the company perform database access (or web sevice access). - You could customize it to provide a standard method of acquiring and storing user credentials so that all applications manage user information the same way. - You could implement plug-ins to perform custom and standardized logging (assuming there is a standard logging process already in place). The possibilities are endless - I'll bet anything this is not the last time we here of a Fortune 500 company adopting Struts for intrnal development. "Craig R. McClanahan" To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) 01/23/2003 02:18 PM Subject: RE: Struts officially supported at Ford Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List" On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Karr, David wrote: > > It's certainly good that they're using 1.1, but somewhat unfortunate > that they stopped at b2. There were numerous fixes put in after b2, > including the entire Struts-EL contribution. Hopefully they can upgrade > their support pretty quickly. > Don't give them too hard a time about this. It's absolutely appropriate for organizations responsible for mission critical software to be conservative in their version choices -- and every such organization I'm familiar with puts any potential new version through very extensive testing (for example, against existing apps or against any in house customizations they did to the previous version) before putting their stamp of approval on it. Struts 1.1b3 hasn't been out long enough to go through a cycle like that -- and, if I were in their shoes, given the timing, I'd probably just skip certifying b3 and go certify 1.1 final. What I'm very pleased about, though, is that Ford "gets it" in a different respsect -- they didn't consider "beta" to be a four-letter word :-). Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: < mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: < mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
