Have you ever used JBuilder?  I'm just curious, I've never met anyone that
actually had used it and thought it was very good.

You should check into Eclipse.

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From: Expedito Reinaldo da Silva Júnior
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Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:35 AM
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Subject: Struts Tools


Hi, All!

I don´t know if I'm asking to the right list, but I have a question: I'd
like to know what's the best IDE/tool to help construction web applications
with Struts. I've seen some
tools in the Struts resources page but I'm not impressed with them. In
truth, I thought in a tool helping us to 'draw' pages with areas (tiles),
buttons,
input boxes, etc, in a way that we can access its properties and configure
its
name, validation rules, default values and so on. After creating our
'views', we could make the sequence of pages, like forward and redirect
pages; and all visually. After all, the tool could generate my JSPs and the
struts-config.xml
file correctly. From the input boxes we could know what input fields the
view need
and generate the expected DynaBeans, with the respectives validations
rules (previously setted). Following this idea, I thing we can generate our
Views, FormBeans (DynaBeans) and Validations, and the ActionBean's
skeleton; the user will just need to program the business rules
(ActionForm.execute()).

I've recently searched for drawing tools to create such 'framework' (or ide)
and I find that MS Visio and System Architect has features that could
produce this results. In truth, I want something like AllienFactory
(http://www.alien-factory.co.uk/struts/struts-index.html), but doing much
more things visually.

A few days ago, I've managed some training courses and I find that the big
problem about the Java Language and the technologies it involves are the
IDEs
we have! They are very poor (I don't know about JBuilder... I know it's very
good...)!!! How can we convince VB and Delphi programmers to migrate to
Java with such tools?? So, I was looking at ASP .NET and its IDE facilities
(I sugest you to know and you will undertand me) and that time I thougth
'why cannot we have something like this'?? I really don't like the
'DarkSide', but
its framework helps a lot its programmers.

Struts is the right framework,
because its MVC separation allow us to generate a tool to reach such
facilities. What do you think about it????? Please help me make Java very
easy besides a great language!!! I know that good Java programmers are also
great experts in Design Patterns, architects and so on, but our language
(Java) can really grow substancially in the world with such programmer's
requisites??? Don't you think a great IDE could help?

Thanks all and sorry my bad english.

Expedito Jr.

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