> True data binding is generally inflexible and troublesome. 
> Having come 
> from the VB world many years ago, and its data binding way of doing 
> things, I can say that I can't stand it. Having a middle 
> ground creates 
> more opportunities and power than not having it. I know some 
> who still 
> do data binding in swing apps, and they end up doing lots of hacks to 
> perform things like validation, both simple and complex, and other 
> 'process' type of actions. All of this is easy to do with the 
> way Struts 
> handles things. Taking the data out of a DynaForm once I'm done doing 
> simple validation and maybe some pre-processing, then doing a simple 

Rod Johnson, recommanded the following :
"Validation code shouldn't be contained in web-tier controllers or any objects unique 
to the web tier. This allows the reuse of validation objects for other client types".

He continued by :

"Validation in the web tier has the severe disadvantage of tying validation 
logic(which may be business logic) to the Servlet API and perhaps also to a web 
application framework.
Unfortunately, Struts tends to push validation in the direction of the web tier, as 
validation must occur on Struts ActionForm objects, which depend on the Servlet API, 
and hence *cannot* not be passed into an EJB container and should not be passed to any 
business object. For example, validation is often accomplished by overrinding the 
org.apache.struts.action.ActionForm validate method.
I consider this (and the fact that ActionForm objects must extends a Struts superclass 
dependent on the Servlet API) to be a major design flaw.

> copyProperties call to take the string version of the data 
> and populate 
> a 'real' domain object is to easy for me want to give up.

With the framework suggested by Rod Johnson there is no need to make this copy.
The design deals with domain object.

Jos�.

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