>> Who gives a (word removed) if Cedric is going to be in a bookstore this
Saturday?  I
was being sarcastic, not inflammatory, in the traditional hacker sense. <<

I do - and probably some others who subscribe to this list - who will be in
Paris and who may be interested in having a face-to-face discussion with the
author of tiles - arguably a very important component of struts.

>> Perhaps he will be dipping his freedom fries in freedom dressing sitting
by
the freedom doors before ordering freedom toast? <<

I presume this is a reference to French President Chirac's stance on the
imminent war to disarm Iraq - and the American 'humour' cited at the French
people as a whole. In my view - this comment is very inflamatory and I think
it has previously been agreed that prejudiced (and potentially racist)
comments such as this have no place on this list - in my view whether they
are marked as '[OT]' or not. Personally, I have a view on Chirac's stance
also - but do not feel this list is the appropriate medium on which to voice
it. Neither would I, as you seemed to have - presumed to know Cedric's
personal stance on this. Alternatively, you may view that - Cedric is French
and all French people will share the same view and traits - and can be
insulted and mocked - this then would definitely be racist, in my personal
view, of course.

>> And I've been helping people on this list since 1.0 beta, though got
preoccupied for a couple of months on my last project.<<

Great - technologies like struts can only survive with list such as these
and useful input from individuals such as yourself. I hope your project was
completed successfully.

>> Don't like my posts? Can you spell f-i-l-t-e-r? <<

I think everyone is entitled to their own views and some of the [OT] posts
*are* amusing - but when they may cause personal offence or voice prejudiced
views then I think we all have a personal duty to voice our dissatisfaction
with the sender. Whether in the sender's view they were meant to be
'humourous' or not or were posted merely to provoke a reaction - I still
think they are inappropriate. Dissatisfaction voiced.

Yes, I appreciate that Mark's comments should be taken with a 'ladleful of
salt' but I do *not* think Mark has '... earned the privilege to flame
who he wishes ...' - so, pretty please, Mark - apologise - I believe you
have overstepped the mark on this occasion.

H.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 March 2003 15:16
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [OT] Meeting in Paris this Saturday


Who gives a shit if Cedric is going to be in a bookstore this Saturday?  I
was being sarcastic, not inflammatory, in the traditional hacker sense.
Perhaps he will be dipping his freedom fries in freedom dressing sitting by
the freedom doors before ordering freedom toast?

And I've been helping people on this list since 1.0 beta, though got
preoccupied for a couple of months on my last project.

Don't like my posts? Can you spell f-i-l-t-e-r?

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:52 AM

Why do you always bait people with inflamatory OT posts?  It would be
interesting to compare the number of your helpful posts vs. OT.

David



>From: "Mark Galbreath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [OT] Meeting in Paris this Saturday
>Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:09:53 -0500
>
>Gee, and I was just looking for an excuse to go to France....NOT.
>
>Mark
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Cedric Dumoulin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:00 AM
>
>   For those interested to discuss with me about Struts and Tiles, I
>will be this Saturday 22 march in Paris at the bookstore "Le Monde en
>'tique'" from 16h to 18h (www.lmet.fr).
>
>
>
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