here are my 2 cents to this discussion ;-) Initially, the development with struts can be slow. I won't say Struts is complex, it is easy but to create a simple form submission you got to have quite a number of files in set up. But slowly the things get sunk into your mind and then it's real fast process. However, the speed can be increased with tools like Easystruts and IDEs giving extensive support to Struts.
- navjot singh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Shabalov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:26 AM Subject: Re: Do Struts increase developer productivity? > > I 100% agree, Struts is good staff for use by the end of the day, but it > can slow development process. So, can we do something to reduce that > “backslash”? My answer is – yes, by introducing tools that helps developers > to “fight” with Struts complexity. Can Struts be better from functional > prospective? Of course yes, however, it can increase complexity even more, > so we see more demand for good tools. > > Once again, I do not to offend anybody. > > Thank you for answer, > Igor. > > On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:30:20 -0500, Mark Zeltser > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Plus all QA work each of us does by testing struts in different > > environments. > > > > Igor, > > > > In our experience, struts will decrease initial productivity due to the > > learning > > curve. However, this will be time well spent, assuming you will be > > getting > > maintainable application, plus struts is widely used, so there is a good > > chance you > > will be able to find talent if needed. > > > > Re. individual components. Start with well defined directory structure > > for your > > source, images, etc. and ant based build script. Keep adding > > functionality as you > > feel that there is a need for it. (E.g.: need to authenticate users. > > Before > > implementing your own authentication search the archives, you will find > > that a lot > > of problems were already discussed and solved) > > > > Mark. > > > > David Graham wrote: > > > >> I don't have real numbers but thousands of hours of work from many > >> highly > >> paid software engineers has gone into Struts. Say an average developer > >> gets > >> $50/hour * 2000 hours (probably low) = $100,000. > >> > >> Does your company or your clients want to pay that much to develop their > >> own > >> framework? > >> > >> David > >> > >> >From: Igor Shabalov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >Subject: Do Struts increase developer productivity? > >> >Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:00:00 -0800 > >> > > >> > > >> > Hello, all! > >> > Do anybody have any data how using Struts can increase (or > >> decrease) > >> >developer productivity. I mean, for example, â??using Strutsâ?? can > >> save up > >> >to xx% of development cost. Or save up to xx% of development effort (in > >> >terms of number of lines of code) etc. > >> > And, if Struts really help, what portion of struts technolody > >> helps more > >> >â?? tag libraries, controller with actions, tiles or anything else. > >> I > >> >understand that depends too much from specific project â?? but I need > >> just > >> >raff estimations (or wild speculations) > >> > > >> > Thank at advance, > >> > Igor. > >> > > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Igor Shabalov > >> >Director of Engineering > >> >Exadel Inc. > >> >http://www.exadel.com > >> > > >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > >> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender > > does not > > waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > Igor Shabalov > Director of Engineering > Exadel Inc. > http://www.exadel.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
